Path of Exile 1 Gameplay Help and Discussion - Looting -- The official thread for discussing the loot system. Updated 18th March, 2013. - Forum

" ifarmpandas wrote: " mobutu wrote: It all connects in the end. These people that currently top the laddder will want to top the ladder after open-beta too and they'll do everything to make this possible. This means defending most of the advantages that gives them pole-position, including the currrent loot system that is ffa. I'm not anywhere near the top of the ladder and I still think FFA is a good idea. " mobutu wrote: If you think objectively FFA itself it's kind of an exploit too. Lol. Read his post again he never made the claim that only top of the ladder people defend FFA. Also typing lol does nothing to add to the discussion. Standard Forever	Posted by iamstryker#5952 on Dec 22, 2012, 4:48:36 AM Quote this Post
" SL4Y3R wrote: " cyryc wrote: " dmouze wrote: ^Missing my point completely, good job :) Ontopic everything that can be said from both sides has probably been said over and over again :\| You miss you own point. Trying defend an exploiting with the argument is a game mechanic. Come on man, you don't believe using 6 accounts is a in game mechanic. Tha't can't be true. I will. As I've said before, but because good points are so often overlooked in this thread ill say it again. It requires MORE teamwork to actively split up and fighter HARDER enemies. This is the issue at hand. You completely destroy one valid playsytle in order to stop a few people who load. I love playing with people in this manner, as it actually requires teamwork and communication. Instead of everyone simply staying within two feet of.each other and never talking. So the "real" teamwork comes from avoiding eachother? Yeah, that really sounds like a concept that should be encouraged!! Last edited by Sickness#1007 on Dec 22, 2012, 8:27:28 AM	Posted by Sickness#1007 on Dec 22, 2012, 6:55:31 AM Quote this Post
What do you not understand that this was created and designed to cater to the HC niche. Seriously? You're more than welcome to state your opinion, but stating it like its a fact is flat out childish. Devs, please don't ruin your dream of creating one of the best HC arpgs that have come.out in ages.	Posted by SL4Y3R#7487 on Dec 22, 2012, 8:57:50 AM Banned Quote this Post
Sickness, you if you think teamwork is always about being on top of one another, and not.splitting up, perhaps you should realize that you need 0 communication to play in such a manner, but to play efficiently means realizing its not.necessary and in fact.detrimental to have 6 ppl attack a mob with a mere 250% health increase. Split up into smaller teams. Have one guy run off if he can handle it. All of this requires active talking and moving to completing areas as quickly as possible. The goal is to maximize each players/groups strengths. If you do not wish to do this, you don't have to. But your speed will suffer, and thus your rewards will too.	Posted by SL4Y3R#7487 on Dec 22, 2012, 9:03:57 AM Banned Quote this Post
" iamstryker wrote: Read his post again he never made the claim that only top of the ladder people defend FFA. Also typing lol does nothing to add to the discussion. And inane conspiracy theories do contribute to the discussion?	Posted by ifarmpandas#7993 on Dec 22, 2012, 9:55:45 AM Quote this Post
" SL4Y3R wrote: What do you not understand that this was created and designed to cater to the HC niche. Seriously? The financial model suggests otherwise, and it the end that's what really matters.	Posted by Sickness#1007 on Dec 22, 2012, 9:59:59 AM Quote this Post
" SL4Y3R wrote: When you make assumptions about how I currently.play, you look like a jack ass. Edit: seriously. Quit making assumptions. I've been leveling different toons.characters and running pubs for the past month or two. Unless you deleted the wealth gained thru the multi-box exploit it's existence in your stash colors your perceptions on the current group loot system. Of course you do not care about losing an alch orb to another player when you used multi-box farming to accumulate excess wealth before playing in public parties. Your perspective on the loot system vastly differs from most posters because of your accumulated wealth. This is a valid point, and I do not look like a jack_ass for making it. IGN: Wrathmar * Paulie * Client Last edited by wrathmar#4456 on Dec 22, 2012, 10:09:55 AM	Posted by wrathmar#4456 on Dec 22, 2012, 10:09:02 AM Quote this Post
" SL4Y3R wrote: Sickness, you if you think teamwork is always about being on top of one another, and not.splitting up, perhaps you should realize that you need 0 communication to play in such a manner, but to play efficiently means realizing its not.necessary and in fact.detrimental to have 6 ppl attack a mob with a mere 250% health increase. Split up into smaller teams. Have one guy run off if he can handle it. All of this requires active talking and moving to completing areas as quickly as possible. The goal is to maximize each players/groups strengths. If you do not wish to do this, you don't have to. But your speed will suffer, and thus your rewards will too. That's a fault of the game balance then. Splitting up like that is not "teamwork" just because it requires communication. Teamwork in an RPG is when characters work together as a team.	Posted by Sickness#1007 on Dec 22, 2012, 10:13:32 AM Quote this Post
If it is currently possible for players to split and kill monsters with no help than the current monster balance for 6 players instances needs to be adjusted. As it is right now grouping is significantly easier and lower risk than solo! Maybe GGG should buff the health, damage, and pack size while reducing the IIQ bonus. IGN: Wrathmar * Paulie * Client	Posted by wrathmar#4456 on Dec 22, 2012, 10:21:22 AM Quote this Post
Not.damage, but hp. Yes.	Posted by SL4Y3R#7487 on Dec 22, 2012, 11:00:09 AM Banned Quote this Post