Looting -- The official thread for discussing the loot system. Updated 18th March, 2013.

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Chrono89 wrote:

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wrathmar wrote:

High player latency, Slow player response time, Not actively taking part in combat.

sorry to say that's not exploiting, that's the way of the road on the internet man

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cyryc wrote:

It´s gonna be a non-cooperative game. Sad, but true.

i don't see that, everyone kills the monster, then everyone scrambles for loot... it's just not a loot cooperative game really. People just fine cooperate all the time, if someone wants to throw a fit cause they lost a chaos - Oh well.

Big difference between a guy stopping for 2 seconds to wait for the loot, and not fighting at all. Stopping for 2 seconds to concentrate on loot makes them more prone to dying anyway.

If your leaving guys that don't contribute at all in your group its your own fault there.

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Chrono89 wrote:

i don't see that, everyone kills the monster, then everyone scrambles for loot... it's just not a loot cooperative game really. People just fine cooperate all the time, if someone wants to throw a fit cause they lost a chaos - Oh well.

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Chrono89 wrote:

Big difference between a guy stopping for 2 seconds to wait for the loot, and not fighting at all. Stopping for 2 seconds to concentrate on loot makes them more prone to dying anyway.

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Chrono89 wrote:

If your leaving guys that don't contribute at all in your group its your own fault there.

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cyryc wrote:

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PandaMan wrote:

Wow this is so sad....so when my friends ask me wtf PoE is i'll say its, "a non-co-operative game that you play with other people".

Just add loot options...by default you will be competitive unless you change the loot rules how hard is that ?

In fact you, you should say: PoE is an amazing game, it´s growing well and gonna be huge wen the OB come´s in!

There is an amazing passive skill tree and amazing classes, you can do pretty much what do you want with your character.

The only downside is you shouldn´t play in "open" games, because the loot system is broken.

So, get your beta key for only U$ 10 and lets roll our party!

:)

Seriously, don´t say to your friends the game is bad only because the loot system, i agree it is bad, but the game is awesome.

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PandaMan wrote:

Well you're pretty right about this game but I didn't say it was bad. If you don't know the loot system is broken...then what about ranged class that cant get to loot fast enough or people gaining unfair advantages by using broken mechanics.

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SMRD wrote:

I just want to say something about this part, that statement is very misleading.

To some degree sure, outwardly. But its also a incentive for players to find others they can trust and share loot with.

I played public games for months and friended a few people who seemed good mannered or nice. Now we have a large group who we help out, and anytime someone dies in HC we pitch in and give em a hand if the need it till they are high enough level to do maps again. We share unique items and trust each other with some of the best rares in the game. I have seen exalted/regal orbs fall and people just sit there and look at it till someone asks if anyone saw who it fell for. If nobody saw, we either give it to the newest to the group or take turns. all this without even explaining or making any rules or whatsoever...

All of this social stuff would be pointless and frankly, would never happen without the FFA loot environment.

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SMRD wrote:

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cyryc wrote:

It´s gonna be a non-cooperative game. Sad, but true.

I just want to say something about this part, that statement is very misleading.

To some degree sure, outwardly. But its also a incentive for players to find others they can trust and share loot with.

I played public games for months and friended a few people who seemed good mannered or nice. Now we have a large group who we help out, and anytime someone dies in HC we pitch in and give em a hand if the need it till they are high enough level to do maps again. We share unique items and trust each other with some of the best rares in the game. I have seen exalted/regal orbs fall and people just sit there and look at it till someone asks if anyone saw who it fell for. If nobody saw, we either give it to the newest to the group or take turns. all this without even explaining or making any rules or whatsoever...

All of this social stuff would be pointless and frankly, would never happen without the FFA loot environment.

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cyryc wrote:

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Chrono89 wrote:

i don't see that, everyone kills the monster, then everyone scrambles for loot... it's just not a loot cooperative game really. People just fine cooperate all the time, if someone wants to throw a fit cause they lost a chaos - Oh well.

You mean the game it´s just not cooperative at all, then i agree with you. But, not loot cooperative? Seriously? Real? I never read that, and it sounds really strange.

I would really like to see your facing losing like 10 chaos . . . Oh well? :)

That´s why, if you want to keep the system this way, get rid of the timers. Let the carnage beggins!

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Chrono89 wrote:

Big difference between a guy stopping for 2 seconds to wait for the loot, and not fighting at all. Stopping for 2 seconds to concentrate on loot makes them more prone to dying anyway.

You know, there is lag, and we have desync stuff going on, so let´s imagine everyone in the party start to not dps for 2 seconds to focus into the loot, how that sounds too you? If you like this, the system is perfect for you. But it is not for me. At al. Period.

And prone to dying anyway? Think not mate. For sure not.

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Chrono89 wrote:

If your leaving guys that don't contribute at all in your group its your own fault there.

My fault? What? Really? I need kick everyone? Why would i bother to make a party wen i need kick people every 5 min? I rather play alone.

The majority of your imput i couldnt follow, sorry, but in a general note i need disagree with you.

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Chrono89 wrote:

Whatever.

Can you please break this post down letter by letter?

The game not being loot co-operative makes perfect sense. I can co-operate with others to kill stuff, gain experience and level. What the game doesn't allow for is automatic loot co-poeration - it's left to the players, you want to be a negative nancy go ahead dude; that's the experience you'll have.

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Chrono89 wrote:

When you join a pub game you know the risks. The timers make it more fair in the least.

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Chrono89 wrote:

You strike me as the type of person that blames the oven when you get burnt.