My experience with DIABLO III. (Stay awhile and listen..)

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WippitGuud wrote:
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ExileDude wrote:
The facts speak for themselves. Diablo 3 set a new record in number of sales and it got better reviews on average. That you don't like it is just your opinion. Facts are facts.


Adolf Hitler took a country dying during the Great Depression and turned it into the largest economic giant in Europe. Facts are facts.


...Oh, Godwin. You HAD to rear your head here sooner or later, didn't you?

Please be careful with where this might go. ;)
If I like a game, it'll either be amazing later or awful forever. There's no in-between.

I am Path of Exile's biggest whale. Period.
No. You don't have to use the AH at all. If you farm act 1 until you have good upgrades to all gear then act 2 will be doable.
Don't whine that you couldn't handle act 2 in your hell gear. Then you just completely miss the point.
It was not my intention to compare D3 to Nazi Germany. I was simply implying that 'facts are facts' can be applied to anything... and then there is what comes after said facts.

Yes, D3 is the biggest selling game of all time. It's what comes after the initial sales that matters... it may end up being the biggest refunded title of all time, too.
It very well may, Guud. That said, I'm not sure that the number of refunds will be sufficient to topple the game from the status of 'financial success'.

The whole thing has been fascinating to watch from a very safe distance. I feel a little like one of those smug (but very ignorant in their own way) scientists in a 'safe' shelter watching the first atomic bomb tests...maybe channeling a little Oppenheimer as I mumble at the dazzling, seemingly faraway cloud of devastation...

Spoiler
"I am become Sheablo, Destroyer of Worlds."
If I like a game, it'll either be amazing later or awful forever. There's no in-between.

I am Path of Exile's biggest whale. Period.
Last edited by Foreverhappychan#4626 on May 31, 2012, 5:55:46 PM
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CharanJaydemyr wrote:

Spoiler

"I am become Sheablo, Destroyer of Tampons."


Fixed and spoilered. So disappointing.
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zeto wrote:
The reviewers were negligent... this video series is the best critical review out there. It explains exactly why D3 is garbage, and that it is a LONG road to being fixed... if it can be fixed at all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8CBbeSAjVo


No. It explains why he personally don't like it. "D3 is garbage" is clearly an incorrect statement since there are so many that love D3. You may think that D3 is garbage, but don't forget that that is just your own personal opinion.

ps. I disagree with almost everything that reviewer said. He is even factually incorrect at times which makes the bias shine through.
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Sickness wrote:
No. You don't have to use the AH at all. If you farm act 1 until you have good upgrades to all gear then act 2 will be doable.
Don't whine that you couldn't handle act 2 in your hell gear. Then you just completely miss the point.


You are correct in that you don't HAVE to use the AH. However if you want to compete with other players you do. And honestly if you want to upgrade your gear from a certain point within reasonable time frame you do. A1 Inferno loot from what I have seen is junk. Yes A2 is quite doable with good gear, so is A3. It just is too bad that in order to get that good gear you have to be farming in A3-A4... or buying stuff on AH.

In the long run I like the system because most bad players will not be able to farm their own loot because they will just get raped in A3-A4. Meanwhile I am farming loots and selling them for real money. Much like Blizz, I have no qualms with taking peoples money. I can understand how a lot of people would not like this though, and I can see that it is set up that way for Blizzard to maximize profits from RMAH.

Are you past A2 Inferno yet? Me and a buddy have been running Inferno Unicorns and its hard, but nothing the AH wont let us overcome! lol

I would definitely not say D3 is garbage. However the game has really been torn apart by exploits and we are only 2 weeks in. There would not have been lvl 63 weps on the AH if it were not for some of the game design decisions that allowed corpse hopping or some of the OP skills like Force Armor...

You can farm A1 inferno indefinitely to try to upgrade your gear, but when you can go on the AH and buy better upgrades for a couple hundred K what is the point?
Last edited by thepmrc#0256 on May 31, 2012, 6:39:45 PM
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thepmrc wrote:
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Sickness wrote:
No. You don't have to use the AH at all. If you farm act 1 until you have good upgrades to all gear then act 2 will be doable.
Don't whine that you couldn't handle act 2 in your hell gear. Then you just completely miss the point.


You are correct in that you don't HAVE to use the AH. However if you want to compete with other players you do. And honestly if you want to upgrade your gear from a certain point within reasonable time frame you do. A1 Inferno loot from what I have seen is junk. Yes A2 is quite doable with good gear, so is A3. It just is too bad that in order to get that good gear you have to be farming in A3-A4... or buying stuff on AH.

In the long run I like the system because most bad players will not be able to farm their own loot because they will just get raped in A3-A4. Meanwhile I am farming loots and selling them for real money. Much like Blizz, I have no qualms with taking peoples money. I can understand how a lot of people would not like this though, and I can see that it is set up that way for Blizzard to maximize profits from RMAH.

Are you past A2 Inferno yet? Me and a buddy have been running Inferno Unicorns and its hard, but nothing the AH wont let us overcome! lol

I would definitely not say D3 is garbage. However the game has really been torn apart by exploits and we are only 2 weeks in. There would not have been lvl 63 weps on the AH if it were not for some of the game design decisions that allowed corpse hopping or some of the OP skills like Force Armor...


It is this precise and obviously very deliberate design that turned my most technically minded friend from the game in the end (the end, already?!). To create a difficulty level that all but demands you buy gear from beyond it struck him as particularly obnoxious.

This same friend views the Skilldrasil with a sort of wariness experienced spelunkers reserve for very dark holes. He's fascinated but convinced it has WAY too much room for broken builds. He's sort of the science-computer genius of my little circle, so I don't really try to argue the point. I just say the game's really fun. He'll come around. :)

Back on-topic: I think it was inevitable that D3 would be attacked by exploiters and the like. It's just too damn popular now. The game was never about eradicating cheaters and exploiters -- I think Blizzard learned that they couldn't win that fight with D2 LoD; it's more about accepting cheaters and exploiters as an acceptable loss, a manageable evil.

It will be extremely interesting to see the state of the game a year from now. Extremely.
If I like a game, it'll either be amazing later or awful forever. There's no in-between.

I am Path of Exile's biggest whale. Period.
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Sickness wrote:
No. You don't have to use the AH at all. If you farm act 1 until you have good upgrades to all gear then act 2 will be doable.
Don't whine that you couldn't handle act 2 in your hell gear. Then you just completely miss the point.


http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5150112701?page=2#33

The drop rates are designed with the fact in mind that the AH will be a very affordable and easy-to-use source of very good items.
Which means that not using the AH equals putting yourself at a disadvantage.


@the linked videos: You did watch them? He mentions (well, it's heavily implied) that he doesn't hate the game. he remarks upon the fact that one day he praises it thoroughly for some thing, but on another day has to point out severe flaws.
I think the thing that hurts D3 the most at the moment are people not acknowledging that it has problems.

See, I don't hate the game either. I wanted it to be good so badly to the last second, even though I knew on an intellectual level that it wouldn't hold up, couldn't. I hate what Blizzard (or more likely: some higher-ups) did to that game. I hate how Blizzard forces their restricted DRM on the players.
But I don't hate the game. I feel sorry for it.
12/12/12 - the day Germany decided boys are not quite human.
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thepmrc wrote:
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Sickness wrote:
No. You don't have to use the AH at all. If you farm act 1 until you have good upgrades to all gear then act 2 will be doable.
Don't whine that you couldn't handle act 2 in your hell gear. Then you just completely miss the point.


You are correct in that you don't HAVE to use the AH. However if you want to compete with other players you do. And honestly if you want to upgrade your gear from a certain point within reasonable time frame you do.


That is just like any other game where trading is possible. Including D2.

And what is a reasonable timeframe? You can't beat inferno after 2 weeks and you say that it's unreasonable...

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thepmrc wrote:
A1 Inferno loot from what I have seen is junk. Yes A2 is quite doable with good gear, so is A3. It just is too bad that in order to get that good gear you have to be farming in A3-A4... or buying stuff on AH.


Then you have not farmed enough. You can do A2 with A1 gear and A3 with A2 gear. Maybe just not after only a couple of days of farming. Give it a month per act, atleast.


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thepmrc wrote:

I can see that it is set up that way for Blizzard to maximize profits from RMAH.


Right...

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thepmrc wrote:

Are you past A2 Inferno yet? Me and a buddy have been running Inferno Unicorns and its hard, but nothing the AH wont let us overcome! lol


A friend and I just made it to A4 the other day.

Buying and selling loot is possible even without an AH.....

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thepmrc wrote:

You can farm A1 inferno indefinitely to try to upgrade your gear, but when you can go on the AH and buy better upgrades for a couple hundred K what is the point?


Then don't farm. That doesn't mean you must use the AH to make progress.

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