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I thought it was simple.
This league is all reduction, no additions. New skill gems are just clicks with different particle effects and the league mechanic you mainly interact with is dull, Logbooks too rare.
So if PoE was a book, why would I re-read the same story, but with words missing and torn pages? It's just an objectively worse experience for the exact same content. Remove fun and replace it with nothing = less fun game. So I sleep.
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Posted byNecrotekk#4404on Aug 12, 2021, 9:44:51 AM
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samuelx2013 wrote:
I'm trying to figure it out, but can't get it yet.
Yes GGG nurfed most of the build's by 40-60% of the base damage.
Let's take 3.14 for example, that's where toxic rain got nerfd pertty bad if I recall, But yet people played toxic rain with insane damage EVEN AFTER THE NERF.
Let's be honest a little bit, I also love the option to just "zooooom" from act 1-10 in no time with minimal investment, Before the nerf I managed to finish act 1-10 in less of 5h, and now it takes me about 8h.. big deal, +3 more hours til I can start mapping.( and I play 3h a day)
even with those huge nerfs the old builds can still be played and do maybe not insane damage but still good damage.
Everyone wanted to have that "insane" build that will cost no more then 10ex including me, but with the nerfs it will take me more time to get that currency and that's OK!, that's how games suppose to be, POE is the only game I ever met that you can get to end game within 3 days, go play WoW and try to get to "endgame" within 3 days.
everyone just talking about the nerfs and how is GGG don't give a fuck about the player and yada yada yada, look at the plus sides, headhunter is something you can get with no time and with not that huge investment with the new league mechanics. I've been playing POE since legion, and I don't lie when I say that I've never got my hands on a headhunter, no matter how many times I tried. and this league I manage to get it under 5ex investment.
Never mind that, I can go on and on telling the bad in those nerfs and the goods.
What I'm trying to say is that, try to find a way to get the most enjoyable time out of this game, even with the nerfs.
Your build got nerfed to the ground?? that's ok go and try to play a different build style, The amount of build's people have been made even with the nerfs are ridicules (and the build's I've found that people made doing more then 70m dps) So you can have a "insane" build, it just a matter on how much time you want to spend on it, My build is aura stacker (that's a fucking 350+ex build) and slowly I'm getting there.
If you still think is league is sucks then go ahead think that.
You're speaking a lot for someone who never farmed end game content.
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Posted byDomah#5128on Aug 12, 2021, 10:06:01 AM
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Easy answer: because people, for better or worse, get overly serious.
Politics, religion, gender, sexuality, anything that exists, and you will always find groups that are willing to kill if their view is distorted.
That's it.
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Posted bylupasvasile#5385on Aug 12, 2021, 12:28:48 PM
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TorsteinTheFallen wrote:
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Phrazz wrote:
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TorsteinTheFallen wrote:
dO wE NeeD tO PuT 5 turbos on nEXt generation?
That's a "no" from you, then. No such thing as "too easy", no such thing as "too fast" and so such thing as "a sense of accomplishment".
Got it.
You still don't get it do you.
3.13 was the Porsche 911 of PoE. They've hit winning formula for the game. There was no need anymore to chase powercreep and MOAAR.
Only thing they had to do is to finally fine tune, balance and perfect existing stuff.
What they did instead? Tried to reinvent the wheel and the results are here and no one can turn the blind eye anymore. Game went to shit. Chris is having salvage appearance in Baeclast, which i think will be just another disappointment for the community.
LOL 3.13 was a porsche, what a joke.
Heres an ACTUAL visual representation of 3.13
Harvest sucks! But look at my decked out gear two weeks in!
Labyrinth salt farm miner.
"But my build diversity" , "Game is too hard!" - Meta drone playing the same 1-3 builds for years.
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Posted byTin_Foil_Hat#0111on Aug 13, 2021, 9:24:42 AM
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LOL 3.13 was a porsche, what a joke.
Seeing you haven't played 3.13 at all, it's rather difficult to take you seriously.
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Posted byXyel#0284on Aug 13, 2021, 11:22:41 AM
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The hardest thing for everyone here to do is to realize that other people have different viewpoints for their opinions. It's not all about you... which ever side you're on. They didn't "ruin the game". They changed it. Some like the change and others don't. Neither group is right. Neither group is wrong.
Putting the other side down because they don't play the same way as you doesn't strengthen your point... it just means you're on the side that isn't willing to listen to the other.
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Posted byShagsbeard#3964on Aug 13, 2021, 11:33:17 AM
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Shagsbeard wrote:
The hardest thing for everyone here to do is to realize that other people have different viewpoints for their opinions. It's not all about you... which ever side you're on. They didn't "ruin the game". They changed it. Some like the change and others don't. Neither group is right. Neither group is wrong.
Putting the other side down because they don't play the same way as you doesn't strengthen your point... it just means you're on the side that isn't willing to listen to the other.
Deckard Cain has joined the chat..
"Stay awhile and listen"
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Posted byneronxx#3141on Aug 13, 2021, 12:02:49 PM
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Phrazz wrote:
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TorsteinTheFallen wrote:
dO wE NeeD tO PuT 5 turbos on nEXt generation?
That's a "no" from you, then. No such thing as "too easy", no such thing as "too fast" and so such thing as "a sense of accomplishment".
Got it.
1974 Porsche Turbo top speed 155 mph
2021 Porsche Turbo top speed 205 mph
No nerfs needed to these cars, because they were never over tuned, like GGG's speed meta.
2021 3.15 GGG Porsche Turbo: 
Players want this kind of speed: 
GGG has been delivering this kind of speed (because they won't implement diminishing returns on movement and other skills):
Diminishing returns - it works in the real world. That's why the next supercar (the Devel Sixteen) is only planned on hitting 347 mph, compared to the current speed champ, the SSC Tuatara's (2 images above) top speed of 331 mph.
In GGG's planning the above car would be capable of hitting over 500 mph.
Diminishing returns.
"The only legitimate use of a computer is to play games." - Eugene Jarvis
PoE Origins - Piety's story http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2081910 Last edited by DalaiLama#6738 on Aug 13, 2021, 1:05:04 PM
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Posted byDalaiLama#6738on Aug 13, 2021, 1:03:44 PM
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samuelx2013 wrote:
I'm trying to figure it out, but can't get it yet.
Yes GGG nurfed most of the build's by 40-60% of the base damage.
Let's take 3.14 for example, that's where toxic rain got nerfd pertty bad if I recall, But yet people played toxic rain with insane damage EVEN AFTER THE NERF.
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You make a post but know nothing about your first example which is Toxic Rain. The nerf of Toxic Rain made players choose to use it as a strong bosser or a good clear skill but not both.
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Posted byMrWonderful99#4612on Aug 13, 2021, 1:19:09 PM
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DalaiLama - they need to add diminishing returns, caps or anything and reduce discrepancy among different builds (glasscanon vs tanks etc) or they will never ever balance anything.
Global nerfs without more radical changes solve nothing. It just made weaker builds weaker but top builds are still super strong.
There are two groups anyway.
One group loves being fast, zoom zoom through maps and getting HH in no time and the second group would love slower gameplay, dark and brutal enviroment while dropping ID scrolls (exaggerating).
They could leave PoE 1 fast / zoom zoom and make PoE 2 separate game or at least add possibility to create a private league with different parametres (more loot / XP whatever).
Both groups would be happy:)
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