Floating combat text

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Sabastian7 wrote:

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xxnoob wrote:

I swear people are either trying to troll or want this to be Diablo 3. These suggestions are too fishy.

Who cares that Diablo 3 also uses it? So what? That doesn't mean its a bad system. If you don't like it, then the *obvious* thing would to just *not use it.* Is this really that complicated to understand? Everyone who disagree with this system either says, D3 uses it, I don't want numbers all over my screen, or it may cause lag for some people. Ok? I don't get why those problems should mean NO ONE gets to use it! All three of those issues could EASILY be taken care of by one extremely simple thing: *don't use it!*

Personally, I would really like to see this in. (By the way, normal hits and criticals should not look the same. Perhaps criticals could be a different color?)

Also, I think it would be nice to *have an option* to have floating enemy health bars.

I have absolutely no idea why people could have opposition to this as long as it is optional.

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If it were forced numbers and bars, then hell yes: I could definitely see a problem, but that is *precisely* why it should be an option. As long as it is an option available for those that actually do want it, the opposition is irrelevant and unfounded.

EDIT: (By the way again, the floating damage numbers should *only* show your numbers to yourself. I could understand why some people wouldn't to see *everyone's* numbers! In fact, I wouldn't either, but as long as the damage numbers would 1) be optional and 2) only show the player his/her own character's damage numbers, then I am definitely a big supporter of the idea.)

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If you don't have floating combat text in hack and slash RPG,you are doing it wrong

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If you don't have floating combat text in hack and slash RPG,you are doing it wrong

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Nurvus wrote:

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Sabastian7 wrote:

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xxnoob wrote:

I swear people are either trying to troll or want this to be Diablo 3. These suggestions are too fishy.

Who cares that Diablo 3 also uses it? So what? That doesn't mean its a bad system. If you don't like it, then the *obvious* thing would to just *not use it.* Is this really that complicated to understand? Everyone who disagree with this system either says, D3 uses it, I don't want numbers all over my screen, or it may cause lag for some people. Ok? I don't get why those problems should mean NO ONE gets to use it! All three of those issues could EASILY be taken care of by one extremely simple thing: *don't use it!*

Personally, I would really like to see this in. (By the way, normal hits and criticals should not look the same. Perhaps criticals could be a different color?)

Also, I think it would be nice to *have an option* to have floating enemy health bars.

I have absolutely no idea why people could have opposition to this as long as it is optional.

Spoiler

If it were forced numbers and bars, then hell yes: I could definitely see a problem, but that is *precisely* why it should be an option. As long as it is an option available for those that actually do want it, the opposition is irrelevant and unfounded.

EDIT: (By the way again, the floating damage numbers should *only* show your numbers to yourself. I could understand why some people wouldn't to see *everyone's* numbers! In fact, I wouldn't either, but as long as the damage numbers would 1) be optional and 2) only show the player his/her own character's damage numbers, then I am definitely a big supporter of the idea.)

Then I will help you.

Most "convenient" features in games, have deep, long term repercussions, as they change the way players view the game.
This includes things like floating text, damage meter, gear score, group finder, flying mounts, you name it.

In this particular case, we are talking about something that will make players pay even less attention to the action itself, and more attention to numbers and UI.

Your request for Health meters further exacerbates my point.

The same thing applies to requests for damage meters, enemy resistance indicators, and anything that makes the game MORE about the UI and LESS about the action itself.

And then you say: But if it's an option, it's no big deal!
Wrong!

As the players who DO use the option become used to it, the game will become easier in some aspects and harder in others, and new needs will arise.
At that point, GGG will be trying to balance and design the game for both the players who use some features and those who don't.

And floating combat text merely masks a symptom, it doesn't solve the problem:
The fact you want to know how much damage you are dealing, is due to lack of audio and visual cues in that regard.
The best solution is to add appropriate audio (growls/screams) & visual effects (blood spurts) when a monster takes damage above a certain percentage of its maximum Health.

Furthermore, instead of adding health bars, which greatly clutters the screen, give monsters visual effects that help demonstrate how close to death they are.

Make the game MORE about the game and LESS about the UI.