3.10 Has Greater Class/Ascendancy Variety Than Any League In Recent Memory!

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Exile009 wrote:
There are a LOT of different cyclone builds. Some are actual melee, some are spellcasters, some are summoners, etc.


Don't bother with that guy. I tried. His opinion is set, no matter how wrong he is and how feeble his arguments are..
The opposite of knowledge is not illiteracy, but the illusion of knowledge.
To be fair, among the 5-10% of players who always play a summoner every league, more are using cyclone to proc knock-on effects w/r/t summoning. Desecrate into skeletons into detonate, sometimes you skip the skeletons entirely and just go for "hot garbage", but these builds always have a central pool of AG + a golem + specs or herald or Harold or whatever.

When I tell the cycloner "hey, there are other channelling skills you can use to proc cwc des/bone/spirit, some even don't require you to go play in traffic" they point out that standing still to make pizza or kamehameha is, sadly, still standing still. And until that fatal flaw is compensated for, or until cyclone is gutted in some way (removing the channelling tag might just do it), there's no argument to be made for diversity.
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crunkatog wrote:
To be fair, among the 5-10% of players who always play a summoner every league, more are using cyclone to proc knock-on effects w/r/t summoning. Desecrate into skeletons into detonate, sometimes you skip the skeletons entirely and just go for "hot garbage", but these builds always have a central pool of AG + a golem + specs or herald or Harold or whatever.

When I tell the cycloner "hey, there are other channelling skills you can use to proc cwc des/bone/spirit, some even don't require you to go play in traffic" they point out that standing still to make pizza or kamehameha is, sadly, still standing still. And until that fatal flaw is compensated for, or until cyclone is gutted in some way (removing the channelling tag might just do it), there's no argument to be made for diversity.


Its not even just the mobility:

1- Insane number of hits = really good sustain with life gain on hit, knockback and impale synergy;

2- Mobility;

3- Virtually without mana cost;

4- CC immunity (this one is pretty big and not many people talk about it);

5- Works with CwC, CoC, CoMK;

6- works with all melee weapons AND unarmed;

With all this strong points its hard to make anything compete with it.

The only flaw it has, is that it needs investment to "not be melee".
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nGio wrote:

Schools are out worldwide, people are working from home, and businesses are temporarily shut down. Those numbers mean shit dude. I've loved this game and genre since their creations, but it's a shit ass lazy league, and less powerful builds = less fun in arpgs.

Well I’m still playing and I have less time. I was already WFH. School closures mean I have to keep an eye on my two year old daughter every day.

I have very mixed feelings about the league. The highs are great but the lows really suck. What keeps me going is how damn fun my archmage stormbrand Heirophant is. It’s been fun enough that I’m going for 40/40. The thing about build diversity is real and build diversity is a very good thing.
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Vesuvius079 wrote:


I have very mixed feelings about the league. The highs are great but the lows really suck. What keeps me going is how damn fun my archmage stormbrand Heirophant is. It’s been fun enough that I’m going for 40/40. The thing about build diversity is real and build diversity is a very good thing.


I'm confused. This reads as, "I'm having lots of fun with my <currently well known OP build>! Yay diversity!"

Sounds weirdly like the people who act like every normal boring ass thing they do is the coolest, and you couldn't POSSIBLY understand.
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ArtCrusade wrote:
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Exile009 wrote:
There are a LOT of different cyclone builds. Some are actual melee, some are spellcasters, some are summoners, etc.


Don't bother with that guy. I tried. His opinion is set, no matter how wrong he is and how feeble his arguments are..


You can never win an argument by attacking someone personally and by being passive aggressive.

You know people used to use other skills than Cyclone like Ground Slam
but guess why they aren't using them anymore?
Need more brains, exile?
It is very nice to see at last! Seems to have gotten even more balanced since this was posted a week ago. :}
Last edited by Gescom#1904 on Mar 30, 2020, 2:04:53 AM
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MasterTBC wrote:
You know people used to use other skills than Cyclone like Ground Slam but guess why they aren't using them anymore?


How does one use Ground Slam with Cast While Channeling? Don't think I've ever seen a Ground Slam summoner or spellcaster. Have a link to any of those builds?
Last edited by Exile009#1139 on Mar 30, 2020, 2:36:12 AM
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MasterTBC wrote:
You can never win an argument by attacking someone personally and by being passive aggressive.

You know people used to use other skills than Cyclone like Ground Slam
but guess why they aren't using them anymore?


And you can never win an argument without any arguments. I already know I am not gonna sway you over, but anyone reading can make up their own mind, seeing your lack of a response and whatnot.
The opposite of knowledge is not illiteracy, but the illusion of knowledge.
I'm not surprised so few people are playing Stormbind, it's a strange skill, unintuitive & awkward. I don't think I've played something that can feel awesome one moment then total shit the next.

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