3.10 Has Greater Class/Ascendancy Variety Than Any League In Recent Memory!

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nGio wrote:

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Exile009 wrote:

I expected that excuse. You do realize people can play other games, right? Doom Eternal just released for instance, so why aren't they all playing that? Or, you know, doing things other than gaming. But no, they're choosing this option. That says something.

Look at the facts bud. Most games are seeing huge spikes on the Steam charts, even without "seasons". Some games are double what they were prior to the lockdown. Even during a worldwide soft shutdown, PoE is seeing fewer players now than Metamorph had 2 months into the league. You have to factor that into the numbers, and stop blatant white knighting.

This game was heralded as the successor to D2, but D2 was a fucking faceroll of non stop power creep. THAT is what this genre is supposed to do. Nerfing fun and powerful builds is a turnoff to most arpg fans, and that's why PoE is so "diverse" this season, while failing to reach last season's numbers during a time that most Steam games that matter are seeing player increases. Leave your feelings at the door kiddo, the numbers don't lie.

But misinterpretations of those numbers do.

The nonstop power creep is what players have been bitching about all along. We have it in spades now with the cluster jewels (if you know how to use them). So they adjust the monster health and damage and people lose their shit. Most of you aren't looking for a challenge, you just want to faceroll content and feel like you're a good player and get the loot piñata. Please...hopefully PoE doesn't succumb to that weakness.

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Mythreindeer wrote:

The nonstop power creep is what players have been bitching about all along. We have it in spades now with the cluster jewels (if you know how to use them). So they adjust the monster health and damage and people lose their shit. Most of you aren't looking for a challenge, you just want to faceroll content and feel like you're a good player and get the loot piñata. Please...hopefully PoE doesn't succumb to that weakness.

Some players have bitched about it, but the numbers are down significantly from last season, even during a time that record numbers of players are online gaming due to shutdowns. It's a vocal minority, who need to be coddled and told "you're really good at this game".

D2, Hellgate, MH, PoE...THEY WERE ALL FACEROLL. You aren't playing a MoBA, you aren't Faker, and you aren't "MaKiNg ThOsE bIg LC$ PlAyZ BoI". The genre has an extremely low skill ceiling by default. The 'difficulty' of the genre is your fortitude and efficiency. That's what makes it fun. The genre offers us time sinks that we can invest into like trading, crafting, and grinding. If you want to get one shot while yelling into a mic and blaming your jungle, then there are other games that offer that.

Every game doesn't need to have big apms and hate myself mechanics, just to appease the casual teenagers who are conditioned for it.

I mean I guess if every thing sucking equally counts as diverse then yes?

Meanwhile, more content rewards and drops have been nerfed b/c of the streamers who print mirrors every league either way, so thanks for that.

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nGio wrote:

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Mythreindeer wrote:

The nonstop power creep is what players have been bitching about all along. We have it in spades now with the cluster jewels (if you know how to use them). So they adjust the monster health and damage and people lose their shit. Most of you aren't looking for a challenge, you just want to faceroll content and feel like you're a good player and get the loot piñata. Please...hopefully PoE doesn't succumb to that weakness.

Some players have bitched about it, but the numbers are down significantly from last season, even during a time that record numbers of players are online gaming due to shutdowns. It's a vocal minority, who need to be coddled and told "you're really good at this game".

D2, Hellgate, MH, PoE...THEY WERE ALL FACEROLL. You aren't playing a MoBA, you aren't Faker, and you aren't "MaKiNg ThOsE bIg LC$ PlAyZ BoI". The genre has an extremely low skill ceiling by default. The 'difficulty' of the genre is your fortitude and efficiency. That's what makes it fun. The genre offers us time sinks that we can invest into like trading, crafting, and grinding. If you want to get one shot while yelling into a mic and blaming your jungle, then there are other games that offer that.

Every game doesn't need to have big apms and hate myself mechanics, just to appease the casual teenagers who are conditioned for it.

Very well said. Completely agree, the point of every ARPG from Isometric to 3D style is to get as powerful as possible so you basically become a god and you are 100% right that there are alternative genres for e-sport style games. Thats why shit like Dota exist. And consequently most Dota pros even admit they hate the game.

The devs obviously don't play the game. It's as simple as that.

Players are struggling to find a fun build that still has at least decent performance. They want to feel strong, have fun, and not die 4 times in the simulacrum encounters.

Right now the answer is "just exploit the voices jewel stacking" mechanic.
Sorry, but a busted ass mechanic that is borderline exploiting isn't an answer as to how we should have fun.

There's a serious problem with the game when all but a very, very, very small number of builds doesn't feel weak as hell like they can't do anything, and that's where this game is at.


On it's current course, we're probably looking at the last few leagues this game has left in it's life.

An international shutdown is in effect, and this game can't sustain the numbers it had in more fun leagues. That should tell everyone exactly where this game and it's playerbase is headed.

Once the casuals are gone, the top players won't have anyone to have an economy with, and the game will crumble. All because the devs have absolutely no idea what they are doing and think that 2 popular twitch players who have thousands of people funneling currency into builds for them is obviously how every player is, and thats what they balance the game around.

Good job, GGG. You played yourself.

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dachoppa wrote:

i'm the 1%... playing a raider.

I am raider too, must be why my build doesn't works, it sucks.
Too lazy to level new character, i tried already.

Ascendancy might be spread but skills are singular because builds have been completely replaced by ascendancy class

There is only 1 build per ascendancy now and not several builds per ascendancy

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MasterTBC wrote:

Ascendancy might be spread but skills are singular because builds have been completely replaced by ascendancy class

There is only 1 build per ascendancy now and not several builds per ascendancy

Bullshit. I debunked that shit in your thread and you still fail to respond. Stop spreading fake news & learn your shit on statistics already

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ArtCrusade wrote:

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MasterTBC wrote:

Ascendancy might be spread but skills are singular because builds have been completely replaced by ascendancy class

There is only 1 build per ascendancy now and not several builds per ascendancy

Bullshit. I debunked that shit in your thread and you still fail to respond. Stop spreading fake news & learn your shit on statistics already

You must have been daydreaming you debunked nothing.
All you said was that people are on their starter characters however most people quit the league after 2 weeks and will only play 1 character.
The 20% that remain might do other builds but they obviously aren't viable without massive currency.
A 100+ exalt build isn't even worth to think about in balancing.

Out of all the Assasin, Slayer, Champion and Berserker 65% are using Cyclone
Cyclone is 21% of the playerbase

Cyclone hasn't been buffed
Its not the flavour of the league build

Necro has 9% usage on skellies and that was nerfed for some reason
LESS THAN 1% of the playerbase are using that skill

GGG completely fucked the balance its obvious

league has the greatest variety of builds , 5 herald BV guardian - Hold my beer.