3.10 Has Greater Class/Ascendancy Variety Than Any League In Recent Memory!

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SeCKSEgai wrote:

I really wanted to avoid cyclone but felt pushed into it by the league mechanics given how rippy they were on release. I originally wanted to do something like heavy strike or a more natural melee skill but my league starter found standing still was a good way to die to something you didn't even see in the first place.

Yeah..it's dumb. Even with cyclone, even with one of the top builds..you progress, and you get punished for it..until you reach the 1 shot level, where every boss, in every encounter, 1 shots you. It's dumb

And here I am playing the lowly chieftain. Although I will say I have underestimated this class for a long time.

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Exalted805 wrote:

You know what isn't diverse? The level of fun everyone is having: none.

This league sucks, they know it sucks, and rather than trying to do a real fix..they're tippy toeing around it, hoping it'll fix itself. Cool, you gave out a micro transaction loot box..that doesn't fix the fact that the game is not fun and you're hemorrhaging players.

News flash: Dying over and over, is not "challenging"..it is not fun.
News flash: Dying over and over, for weak ass loot, is even less fun.
News flash: Having to farm your life away just to get rng'ed out on a boss that takes ridiculous effort to even fight, is even less fun.

The RNG required to even finish collecting watchstones is ridiculous, too. This entire league is flawed and not fun..I hope they fire whoever came up with these ideas.

Players online directly correlates with how fun the game is. Having no builds that can reliably do content, is not fun, and means there is no hope or point to playing the game. There's probably diversity in people attempting different builds on a quest to find a unicorn, only to discover that it doesn't exist, and quitting shortly thereafter.

Bruh, there's still over 90k ppl playing this league on Steam. And since Steam is like half the playerbase, that means 180k overall on PC. Likely 200k if you include consoles. And that number is holding fairly steady so far, with only a gradual decline as time passes. They're hardly "hemorrhaging players". This league is doing much better than normal.

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Exile009 wrote:

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Exalted805 wrote:

You know what isn't diverse? The level of fun everyone is having: none.

This league sucks, they know it sucks, and rather than trying to do a real fix..they're tippy toeing around it, hoping it'll fix itself. Cool, you gave out a micro transaction loot box..that doesn't fix the fact that the game is not fun and you're hemorrhaging players.

News flash: Dying over and over, is not "challenging"..it is not fun.
News flash: Dying over and over, for weak ass loot, is even less fun.
News flash: Having to farm your life away just to get rng'ed out on a boss that takes ridiculous effort to even fight, is even less fun.

The RNG required to even finish collecting watchstones is ridiculous, too. This entire league is flawed and not fun..I hope they fire whoever came up with these ideas.

Players online directly correlates with how fun the game is. Having no builds that can reliably do content, is not fun, and means there is no hope or point to playing the game. There's probably diversity in people attempting different builds on a quest to find a unicorn, only to discover that it doesn't exist, and quitting shortly thereafter.

Bruh, there's still over 90k ppl playing this league on Steam. And since Steam is like half the playerbase, that means 180k overall on PC. Likely 200k if you include consoles. And that number is holding fairly steady so far, with only a gradual decline as time passes. They're hardly "hemorrhaging players". This league is doing much better than normal.

Schools are out worldwide, people are working from home, and businesses are temporarily shut down. Those numbers mean shit dude. I've loved this game and genre since their creations, but it's a shit ass lazy league, and less powerful builds = less fun in arpgs.

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Exalted805 wrote:

You know what isn't diverse? The level of fun everyone is having: none.

This league sucks, they know it sucks, and rather than trying to do a real fix..they're tippy toeing around it, hoping it'll fix itself. Cool, you gave out a micro transaction loot box..that doesn't fix the fact that the game is not fun and you're hemorrhaging players.

News flash: Dying over and over, is not "challenging"..it is not fun.
News flash: Dying over and over, for weak ass loot, is even less fun.
News flash: Having to farm your life away just to get rng'ed out on a boss that takes ridiculous effort to even fight, is even less fun.

The RNG required to even finish collecting watchstones is ridiculous, too. This entire league is flawed and not fun..I hope they fire whoever came up with these ideas.

Players online directly correlates with how fun the game is. Having no builds that can reliably do content, is not fun, and means there is no hope or point to playing the game. There's probably diversity in people attempting different builds on a quest to find a unicorn, only to discover that it doesn't exist, and quitting shortly thereafter.

You missed the patches where they practically removed any damage that can kill you in Delirium, and now it looks like the upcoming big patch will make it even easier with better visibility and more telegraphing.

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Exile009 wrote:

Bruh, there's still over 90k ppl playing this league on Steam. And since Steam is like half the playerbase, that means 180k overall on PC. Likely 200k if you include consoles. And that number is holding fairly steady so far, with only a gradual decline as time passes. They're hardly "hemorrhaging players". This league is doing much better than normal.

I'm hemorrhaging IQ by reading your post.

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VolcanoElixir wrote:

You missed the patches where they practically removed any damage that can kill you in Delirium, and now it looks like the upcoming big patch will make it even easier with better visibility and more telegraphing.

Nope..I didn't. Practically removed any damage that can kill you? Report back when you start doing Sirus and start juicing up maps with orbs as intended. If you think this is balanced or playable at high level, you...just aren't playing high level.

Diversity of builds, because all the builds are shit, so people are scrabbling to try and find anything that can do shit all. Build diversity doesn't even matter in the first place since this is basically a pve single player game, I'm not playing 100 builds or 20 builds, I'm playing 1 build. Unfortunately every build is ass right now.

Nerfing in ARPGs is just stupid in the first place, buff builds that are under performing. Your time and effort in an ARPG should yield tangible power results. This league your time and effort does not yield results. You can be fully geared and still getting 1 shot, that shouldn't happen in an ARPG.

Also you are just straight up wrong about the league numbers, they ARE losing players and the numbers demonstrate it, despite more people being home gaming than EVER before, the numbers are lower than last league. Look at the average player numbers for this league, 33,000 vs 41,000 for the last league. now look at ANY other popular game, their number are THROUGH THE ROOF, because everybody and their dog is at home gaming.

This league is a massive failure, and if it weren't for the lockdown it would be even more obvious.

Bring back power creep, power creep is necessary in games to keep players engaged and interested.

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SeCKSEgai wrote:

I really wanted to avoid cyclone but felt pushed into it by the league mechanics given how rippy they were on release. I originally wanted to do something like heavy strike or a more natural melee skill but my league starter found standing still was a good way to die to something you didn't even see in the first place.

I can understand this. I tried several strike skills and they just SUCKED. I then put on cyclone and it felt/was 100% better. The worst part about it though, I use avatar of the fire and only had half of my damage fully converted while losing the other half completely but even through all of that, switching to cyclone was still BETTER than all the other shit. I'm thinking I might be done with the league myself. I did a tier 5 100% delerious map before doing the switch to cyclone and the map just wasn't fun. The amount of headache I had with a TIER 5 I cant imagine what a tier 15 would feel like. I love a challenge but its just a headache currently.

Too much nerfing. Keep builds strong and buff other builds.

Also this mechanic forces backtracking, it's just too annoying to do it because you see a drop and don't want to stop.