Reset Passive Skill Tree

What if you can reset in Default League exclusively, leaving the other leagues to have thought out builds?

If you fuck up your build in hardcore, then the game should become more challenging. It's hardcore, after all. Same with cutthroat league.
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AgentDave wrote:
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Tagek wrote:
Well in the same sense, it's also rather unlikely that you would ever obtain such a large amount of regret orbs through the game itself. As I said, they are very similar.


Assuming you made that many mistakes, yes.

But there is a difference between a player who has a full set of Immortal Kings and one who has whatever random gear he picked up on the way to whatever level(/total play time) we are comparing. Despite the fact that there are multiple ways the first player may have aquired that set.

There is no difference between two players who have identical skill paths, even if one of them used to have 1 (or 5, or 100) points elsewhere. Or a 3rd player who (somehow, despite how hard it would get) waited until level 30 to spend any points, but ultimately built the same path.


What I meant was: A respec = full respec.
An orb of respec only respecs one node.
The amount of in-game time it takes you to find let's say 80 of them by yourself is huge.
Just like the time to find an item someone else found is huge. Of course, the chance to find the exact same item is very small, but that's why I said they were very similar, and not the same.
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Wow nice topic post dude
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well done
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xxnoob wrote:
What if you can reset in Default League exclusively, leaving the other leagues to have thought out builds?

If you fuck up your build in hardcore, then the game should become more challenging. It's hardcore, after all. Same with cutthroat league.


Personally, while I'm largely indifferent to whether I can purchase respecs (I merely enjoy discussion the finer points of various topics.), however, this is what I would expect, prefer, and support the most.
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AgentDave wrote:
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xxnoob wrote:
What if you can reset in Default League exclusively, leaving the other leagues to have thought out builds?

If you fuck up your build in hardcore, then the game should become more challenging. It's hardcore, after all. Same with cutthroat league.


Personally, while I'm largely indifferent to whether I can purchase respecs (I merely enjoy discussion the finer points of various topics.), however, this is what I would expect, prefer, and support the most.


I agree, good suggestion xxnoob.
''Stand amongst the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters.
The silence is your answer.''

IGN: Vaeralyse
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AgentDave wrote:
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xxnoob wrote:
What if you can reset in Default League exclusively, leaving the other leagues to have thought out builds?

If you fuck up your build in hardcore, then the game should become more challenging. It's hardcore, after all. Same with cutthroat league.


Personally, while I'm largely indifferent to whether I can purchase respecs (I merely enjoy discussion the finer points of various topics.), however, this is what I would expect, prefer, and support the most.


Probably, but the thing to blame there is the way our judicial system works.
''Stand amongst the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters.
The silence is your answer.''

IGN: Vaeralyse
Actually it doesn't take too long to rush a new character (with equipment/gems already set up) through to act 2 and get 2 orbs each time. I bet you could eventually do it in under an hour.

And your never going to need to reset ALL of your nodes...you can do them one at a time to the point you want to make a change, or, for instance, you might want to take side nodes along the way to a distant but pwoerful node. You could take them until using orbs on them would allow you to make the final jump to the powerful node (say your going for golems blood for instance, you could take 5-6 other damage nodes along the way, but then use orbs to ditch the side damage nodes to make the final jump.

Point being, you can already really alter your passive skill tree fairly significantly. A bit of farming with new characters could suppliment that greatly. If you can get 2 orbs of regret an hour, you could eventually do a full respec of a level 60 character (take about 26 hours or so of creating new characters and running em through act 2 quickly.

You'd probably get at least a few random orb drops as well though, so that would speed it up even more.
Even if you could narrow it down to only 26 hours (which probably only the most adept players could do), that's still 26 full hours. 26 hours you could also spend farming in D3, and I'm sure that would get you a decent profit.

It's still, as I said, very similar.
''Stand amongst the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters.
The silence is your answer.''

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Last edited by Tagek#6585 on May 3, 2012, 3:22:33 PM
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wolfy42 wrote:
Actually it doesn't take too long to rush a new character (with equipment/gems already set up) through to act 2 and get 2 orbs each time. I bet you could eventually do it in under an hour.

And your never going to need to reset ALL of your nodes...you can do them one at a time to the point you want to make a change, or, for instance, you might want to take side nodes along the way to a distant but pwoerful node. You could take them until using orbs on them would allow you to make the final jump to the powerful node (say your going for golems blood for instance, you could take 5-6 other damage nodes along the way, but then use orbs to ditch the side damage nodes to make the final jump.

Point being, you can already really alter your passive skill tree fairly significantly. A bit of farming with new characters could suppliment that greatly. If you can get 2 orbs of regret an hour, you could eventually do a full respec of a level 60 character (take about 26 hours or so of creating new characters and running em through act 2 quickly.

You'd probably get at least a few random orb drops as well though, so that would speed it up even more.


Are you suggesting the quest reward be changed to orbs of regret rather than adding passive respec points to the character that completed the quest? As is you cannot farm the quest for orbs....

Last edited by thepmrc#0256 on May 3, 2012, 3:53:54 PM
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Coldet wrote:
Also in D2 it was nothing for me to blow through 10 or even more re-spec tokens while fine tuning a PVP character or simply trying out different builds. The fact is, despite the quest re-spec's and re-spec tokens I still have 12 characters over level 90 and another 5 LLD characters and that's only the Soft Core expansion characters. There is no need to force people to start new characters to get replay-ability. I get tons of entertainment/satisfaction from experimenting with different builds and would like to be able to do that.


This is actually why I quit playing D2. Respecs ruined it. I did abuse them a bit first with using repec token on my lvl 30 barb with certain gear equipped to bug it all on then dump all points into vit at the beginning of a game.... kinda broken essentially respec token increased my hp by around 25%. Same went for high level pally, he was so easy to spec for specific pvp matchups that it completely broke the game imo.

Its too bad the team working on that patch had no idea how to actually mess with the game code or maybe they would have fixed some of the skills that did not work rather than kill the game with respec.
Last edited by thepmrc#0256 on May 3, 2012, 3:48:20 PM

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