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I'm trying to decide if I should remove Pierce from my links and just run 20% LS with projectile weakness, or run conductivity.
I just run 20% LS and no Pierce, and no projectile weakness either. 60% pierce is obviously not as good as 100% pierce, but the sockets are too valuable especially if you're having to run LMP, life leech / LGOH, blood magic (depending on whether you take the keystone)... most of your sockets end up devoted to utility supports rather than damage supports, which isn't good as far as dps goes. At the very least you need weapon elemental damage in there, and if you can put another damage support, it makes a huge difference. I'd take that over 40% pierce easily.
I don't run with projectile weakness either. I did for a while but I just didn't see the point. Most of the time I'd rather spend the time spamming lightning bolts and dealing more damage than cursing enemies. I run conductivity for heavily lightning resistant blue/rare enemies and enfeeble for anything that hits really hard. Those are the only 2 curses I carry. If you're stacking elementals, then ele weakness instead of conductivity, but same idea. I'm not an expert but that's just what I've come up with from my own experiences.
I managed to figure out, earlier, how to get my build where I want it to be, and it involves having a 5L at the minimum. That extra socket can make all the difference.
Why would u run LMP with LS?
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
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Posted byEdzillaon Apr 5, 2013, 7:57:39 PM
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Why would u run LMP with LS?
Well, how do you effectively use it as an AOE without LMP in there? Without it, you only get 3 bolts, and two are fired so far off to the side that they may not hit anything. Even if two of the bolts hit enemies, two targets is not an AOE.
I mean, what I relly want to do with an AOE skill is this: there is a big clump of enemies a short distance away, and I want to bombard the entire group with lightning. You kind of need LMP for that, or the spread is too wide to hit the whole group.
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Posted byrealatomicpandaon Apr 5, 2013, 8:05:42 PM
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Why would u run LMP with LS?
Well, how do you effectively use it as an AOE without LMP in there? Without it, you only get 3 bolts, and two are fired so far off to the side that they may not hit anything. Even if two of the bolts hit enemies, two targets is not an AOE.
I mean, what I relly want to do with an AOE skill is this: there is a big clump of enemies a short distance away, and I want to bombard the entire group with lightning. You kind of need LMP for that, or the spread is too wide to hit the whole group.
The way I use it is (well, it pierce 100% of the time, for me) I gather a bunch of mobs up - pop Enduring cry, and stand infront of them firing the cone of 3 bolts through them all. Running LMP would be double penalty, because it already has the reduced damage.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
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Posted byEdzillaon Apr 5, 2013, 8:11:05 PM
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The way I use it is (well, it pierce 100% of the time, for me) I gather a bunch of mobs up - pop Enduring cry, and stand infront of them firing the cone of 3 bolts through them all. Running LMP would be double penalty, because it already has the reduced damage.
Yeah, that's true for sure, but I don't know. It could be a difference in playstyle. I feel like I really need the coverage of LMP and that it makes up for the damage loss, but I keep a separate single target damage skill. It's like how LA builds run LMP + Chain. That's a huge damage loss per attack, but the AOE coverage is what makes it worth it.
I tried running a bit in docks just now to see if I was crazy, swapping out my LMP with pierce, and it seemed a lot less efficient. It took a bit more work to get bolts to line up on enemies, and even with 100% pierce I wasn't hitting anywhere near as many enemies as I would've with 60% pierce chance and LMP.
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Posted byrealatomicpandaon Apr 5, 2013, 8:24:19 PM
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nice,i cant wait playing with this build.
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Posted bypaladinlcyon Apr 15, 2013, 9:01:06 AM
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Thinking about transitioning into this build since i've been using LS for the last 20 levels anyways, but can anyone clarify if there is a better combo than LS + LMP + multistrike + Splash ?
seems like it blows all the old combos out of the water
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Posted byrazaleon Apr 15, 2013, 5:14:53 PM
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Thinking about transitioning into this build since i've been using LS for the last 20 levels anyways, but can anyone clarify if there is a better combo than LS + LMP + multistrike + Splash ?
seems like it blows all the old combos out of the water
Wait, why would you use splash? Do you get a new set of projectiles for every enemy hit by the splash?
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Posted byrealatomicpandaon Apr 15, 2013, 8:18:42 PM
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That would assume you're running a 6-link with WED and LoH in there as well. From my own experience, i would rate the gems in order of priority as;
LS-LoH-Multistrike-WED-LMP-FA
Assuming you have a quality LS.
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Posted byMastodonicon Apr 15, 2013, 8:24:40 PM
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That would assume you're running a 6-link with WED and LoH in there as well. From my own experience, i would rate the gems in order of priority as;
LS-LoH-Multistrike-WED-LMP-FA
Assuming you have a quality LS.
This is correct, I would say.
I didn't update the OP because I didn't get to test LS out with Multistrike... From what I've seen though, it's a crazy nice gem for it.
Life is tough... but it is tougher if you're stupid.
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Posted byVenatorPoEon Apr 16, 2013, 5:55:33 AM
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I've been running multistrike + LS the past few days and it's just about a perfect fit with static blows.
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Posted byrealatomicpandaon Apr 16, 2013, 6:55:33 AM
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