Porcupine Goliath Damage is too much

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ciel289 wrote:

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UlfgardLeo wrote:

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RPGNoobANKA wrote:

Example: LAYERS

~ 30% Dual Wield Block Chance (base is 15%, so you have to get more from other sources)
~ 35% Evasion
~ 34% attack dodge via Vaal Grace (use as a panic button, if one runs out of flasks = has no other way of mitigation)
= 99% mitigation against Projectile Attacks, alone.

you add effects that stack multiplicatively

correct number is 70%

exactly this

hit calculation against players work like this:

the attack first rolls monster acc vs eva chance,if the attack passes this check it becomes a "hit"

now the player has a chance (if he gets the stat from items,buffs or passiv tree) to dodge the hit and after the hit passed this check the attack can be blocked

spells obviously skip the eva check and only spell equivalents work against them

for full hit calculation it doesnt matter if it checks dodge or block first the total chance to get hit in the end stays the same

poe´s wording is actually very exact,when you learn the basics
only bonuses with the same name that dont include more or less can stack additively

i.e. block will never stack with dodge,but dodge from vaal grace will stack with dodge from acrobatics

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ARealLifeCaribbeanPirate wrote:

Also, damage avoidance isn't the same as damage mitigation. Both are awesome (and important) but it's very important not to confuse the two.

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yamface wrote:

I'm genuinely curious, what kind of builds struggle with porcupines? Every build I played either has high block/dodge, high armor, stacks endurance charges, uses cold spells or any other corpse destroying mechanic, or has totems/minions meatshielding most of the needles. I can't think of a build that I'd ever play that doesn't have any of those.

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yamface wrote:

I'm genuinely curious, what kind of builds struggle with porcupines? Every build I played either has high block/dodge, high armor, stacks endurance charges, uses cold spells or any other corpse destroying mechanic, or has totems/minions meatshielding most of the needles. I can't think of a build that I'd ever play that doesn't have any of those.

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Fruz wrote:

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Pyrokar wrote:

Without mitigation (and even with in some cases, example: 7endurance charges 8k life berserker build of mine) the only thing that has a chance of keeping you alive against porcupines is corpse removal.

My trickster has lightning coil as only mitigation, and absolutely laughs at porcupines, I can jump in a pack of 10+ of them with damage mods in the map and I barely feel anything.

And Trickster's passive cannot proc more than three times simultaneously.

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Pyrokar wrote:

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Fruz wrote:

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Pyrokar wrote:

Without mitigation (and even with in some cases, example: 7endurance charges 8k life berserker build of mine) the only thing that has a chance of keeping you alive against porcupines is corpse removal.

My trickster has lightning coil as only mitigation, and absolutely laughs at porcupines, I can jump in a pack of 10+ of them with damage mods in the map and I barely feel anything.

And Trickster's passive cannot proc more than three times simultaneously.

Said mitigation, meant defences. 8k life doesn't count as mitigation in your definition right?

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ARealLifeCaribbeanPirate wrote:

Also, damage avoidance isn't the same as damage mitigation. Both are awesome (and important) but it's very important not to confuse the two.