Porcupine Goliath Damage is too much
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Look i didnt start this thread to get an explanation of the things one can do to mitigate the damage, I know all these things and that is not the point.
My point was that if my character is build in such a way that it can deal with everything else in the game including ubers. i shouldnt have to change my build and playstyle to have to deal with 1 mobtype in a couple of maps. I dont need immortal call or steelskin for anything else, why should I start using these skills to do 4-5 maps the Goliaths are in. Its better to then just avoid those maps. The question is not whether or not there are ways to deal with it but if players should build around one mobtype when theres 20 other and bigger things to worry about. And just for those people repeating the list of things you can do. Im using granite flask, have 3 endurance charges (about 45% reduction) up, fortify, additional passive mitigation from skills/tree and 7.2k life. Ask yourself, should it really get oneshot by 2-3 white mobs in unmodded maps because thats whats happening. I just got killed again yesterday in a Zana map that had eem. Poof 3 hours of farming XP gone. |
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" Ouch. The reality of PoE 3.7 is this: You never want to do your exp up in regular maps. Use rotas on c.trials, PJ or BH - all this. Never ever go to accumulate exp on usual atlas maps. Its counterproductive after level 90 at least. You know, too much unpredictable and rng things causing series of oneshots. |
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" OP- gets shotgunned by porcupines OP: whut the fuck is happening, I can do ubers! OP gets told that there are many ways to avoid the shotguneffect of porcupines, INCLUDING BEEING MORE CAREFULL WHILE KILLING BIG PACKS OP: NO I DONT HAVE TO DO THAT I CAN DO UBERS LULZ! OP: I JUST GOT KILLED AGAIN WHY??? Dont you see the flaw in your plan? My gladiator has with 2 flasks up 83% phys reduction, 3000 armor+ basalt flask with additional 83% armor effect and it works just fine |
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" So toxic man you. I can give you an argue on that, your build is like 0.001% of builds on poe, and your words looks like so trash. I'am playing flicker, and there is no way for me to live vs them, GGG should change mechanic they works, becose you CAN'T play flicker strike becose of that... Last edited by zerion6#1538 on Aug 12, 2019, 8:32:04 PM
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" Yes you can. You just need to build your character with some defences, other than pure buffer with nothing else to go with it. You fask setup is pretty much purely offensive, you have a little bit of %inc armour on the tree because the nodes have life ( otherwise you would likely have never taken them ), you are right next to "Inexorable" keystone but you choose not to take it because you went for just offensive or life nodes and that's it. And now we even have guard skills .... and you apparently did not understand that you cannot use 2 of them at the same time, and you linked them with CwDT which means that you cannot use them manually when jumping in a pack of porcupines. TLDR: you don't know how to layer defences properly, and you die to Porcupines. SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading. Last edited by Fruz#6137 on Aug 12, 2019, 9:07:33 PM
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Some of them deal elemental damage
Need more brains, exile?
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" "Some of them" ? Until you can back up that claim, I'm going to go with just : "no". The spikes are physical, for each 100% of an element added as elemental against porcupine, you get 25% extra elemental damage taken after elemental mitigation, before physical mitigation ( which he has little of ). So it's still very likely physical damage killing him. He also has no chance to dodge attacks and pretty much no evasion. He is right next to the Acro/Phase Acro cluster but hasn't taken it either of course. SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading. Last edited by Fruz#6137 on Aug 12, 2019, 9:11:35 PM
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" There, I TLDR'd the thread for all the new people. Last edited by ARealLifeCaribbeanPirate#2605 on Aug 12, 2019, 9:53:51 PM
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The best counter ive found if do not run Herald of Ice (Which makes them near non existent otherwise) for Melee is to run Bladestorm with LGOH support. Its also my PCOC utility as well on my zerker to help counter the Blitz downside. From there just do not blast into an entire pack full force or even this wont work.
That combined with Molten Shell on CODT has solved that issue but till i found this they were the most deadly mechanic in the game for my build. Obviously if i was to buy even more expensive gear for maxing out my Armour i could hard counter this where i dont need Bladestorm anymore.. already got it to the point i dont need LGOH support on it anymore just a nice roll on a single ring with Warlords covers me now at this point in my gear. There's ALWAYS a way to counter everything in this game.. sometimes you just have to suffer a few too many deaths to it and think about a way to counter the issue. For example if you stack enough Armour and run Molten Shell on CODT and dont blast full packs of them full force you should be fine.. if you are evasion based Steelskin covers what evasion and dodge itself doesn't. With enough Evasion and Dodge combined with Steelskin you actually end up pretty damn tanky. Just watch for Elemental Map Mods as well.. if you run a map with more than 1 elemental map mod the map is already deadly enough as it is and it only makes porcupines even worse. 2 or more is a death sentence even without porcupines. But even then 5 End Charges+IC on CODT work quite well in those cases. Since porcupines deal Phys damage baseline those elemental mods convert that into even more in the form of elemental. To me things like this as frustrating as they may be are half the fun in figuring out ways to counter them. Even the best builds have weakness's you must sort out sometimes. And since i always farm the highest tier content possible while typically either farming Elder or Shaper or Uber Elder you have to sometimes come up with ways to deal with things in T16 content for sure. Only thing i find frustrating about porcupines from a balance standpoint is they are the bain of the pure Physical builds now. Elemental builds especially of the crit variety make it where you can play for years and never even know just how deadly they can be. HOI especially makes them non existent. There is a fine line between Consideration and Hesitation. The former is Wisdom, the latter is Fear. Last edited by Demonoz#1375 on Aug 12, 2019, 11:28:26 PM
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" https://poedb.tw/us/mon.php?n=Chrome-touched+Goliath https://poedb.tw/us/mon.php?n=Chrome-infused+Goliath Need more brains, exile?
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