Burning Arrow

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ScrotieMcB wrote:


25-76 physical, discarded for burn calculations
58-176 base physical-to-fire * (1+.36+.6+.9+1.24) = 238-722 ending physical-to-fire
66-119 base unconverted fire * (1+.36+.6+.9) = 189-340 ending unconverted fire
427-1062 ending fire * 1.77 * 1.5 * 2 * 2.2 = 4988-12406 final fire damage on initial hit (8697 average)



im not sure what the hell you exactly did there, but there is no bowskill in game that can deal 5-12k damage in one hit, period, with burning yes, but you said on initial hit. reality wise the only way your gettin that much fire damage in a single blow is if you use an added fire damage on a bear trap with a high % blackgleam and increase all fire damage possible. that or the on low life swords.

that much could easily be dealt as combined burning and initial hit fire, but most would rather use a simple fire trap that can easily deal around 10k burning dps (ground and ignite, not an exaggeration because im sittin at 4-5.5k DPS of burning, no curses involved, dont have all fire/ele nodes) to an enemy over the base 4 seconds, more with duration buffs and curses.

either way, the fact that 90% of people would rather use a fire trap for the double burn over a burning arrow, which receives a rather low burn increase. that 20% is nice, but it doesnt increase.

you can increase BA fire damage with - projectile weakness - elemental weakness - and flammability, but just using the 2 ele weaknesses on a fire trap is much more efficient, especially considering the fact that your working with a short and long term burning effect.

burning arrow - needs a buff. #1 under rated bow skill in poe at this time.
light arrow - #1 over rated bow skill that sucks because 14/15 la users in end game deal no damage in a group.
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Raghin wrote:
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ScrotieMcB wrote:


25-76 physical, discarded for burn calculations
58-176 base physical-to-fire * (1+.36+.6+.9+1.24) = 238-722 ending physical-to-fire
66-119 base unconverted fire * (1+.36+.6+.9) = 189-340 ending unconverted fire
427-1062 ending fire * 1.77 * 1.5 * 2 * 2.2 = 4988-12406 final fire damage on initial hit (8697 average)



im not sure what the hell you exactly did there, but there is no bowskill in game that can deal 5-12k damage in one hit, period, with burning yes, but you said on initial hit. reality wise the only way your gettin that much fire damage in a single blow is if you use an added fire damage on a bear trap with a high % blackgleam and increase all fire damage possible. that or the on low life swords.
If you're talking the displayed DPS when you hover your mouse over the skill, it wouldn't have the 50% more Point Blank multiplier, the 100% more Chin Sol multiplier, or the 120% more elemental resistance reduction multiplier. List would be something like 756-1880 per attack (just multiply by attacks per second).

That's the thing about Chin Sol & Point Blank -- they're modest. I mean, really you're doing three times as much damage as listed, and that's before you even factor in curses. At the end of the day you're doing six times list DPS.
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Last edited by ScrotieMcB on Jun 1, 2013, 12:12:07 AM
Sucks, doesn't set shit on fire 100% which would be logical.
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is this june fools or something for you to spam almost every thread with almost the same format comment? most of the points are invalid as sometimes drawbacks are needed and most of the skills you commented to are NOT weak or useless (especially when not alone).
can someone please explain why blacklgeam is so good with this skill?

to em it seems that it would take away 30-50% of the physical damage that burning uses to add as extra fire damage? Or is that calculated first?

would a 30% ele dmg 60% crit multi quiver outperform it on a crit build using lioneyes?
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DutchRudder wrote:
to em it seems that it would take away 30-50% of the physical damage that burning uses to add as extra fire damage? Or is that calculated first?

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ahh right so what kind of dps are people getting with burning arrow, gmp, weapon ele and blackgleam on a lioneyes?

my crit multi is 750 and crit chance is 27 at level 55 im just deciding what skill to use
PLEASE buff burning arrow

there is really no reason to use it as an end game build when compared to viable builds

even if you were to do an ele prolif burning build, it just doesnt do enough damage :/

rather discharge or roa
@HBT
Last edited by k0do on Sep 28, 2013, 12:36:53 AM
Burning Arrow is considered a cheap spammable SINGLE-TARGET skill. It cant match AoE skills in terms of AoE damage. Try to use it as intended, link something like Added fire(or faster attacks)/WED/Life leech to it in 4-L(prefferably with Blackgleam), and use it as alternate skill against bosses.



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Last edited by MortalKombat3 on Sep 29, 2013, 4:52:13 AM
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MortalKombat3 wrote:
Burning Arrow is considered a cheap spammable SINGLE-TARGET skill. It cant match AoE skills in terms of AoE damage. Try to use it as intended, link something like Added fire(or faster attacks)/WED/Life leech to it in 4-L(prefferably with Blackgleam), and use it as alternate skill against bosses.



sure, you can use it for single target

but it will still be doing ALOT less damage than frenzy or ele hit

theres just no place late game where using burning arrow is optimal :/
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