And the point of having 75/75 block...

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I didn't say you were boasting. But you will understand once you face a Minotaur for the first time.

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DamageIncorporated wrote:

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Draegnarrr wrote:

12k armour is pretty bad depending on your map tier, probably ok for early but 12k in T15 is about the same as not having any (I run 27k and still frequently get hit for 2-3k by trash) the % reduced phys stat is about the most misleading stat in the game and they really should rename it to % phys reduction pure (from basalt/end charges/soul of steel etc) and phys reduced from armour in 2 seperate stats or something.

Uh...you're talking out your rear. Lots of builds, heck most builds have less than 12k armor.
It very much depends on the build and gear lay out.
But ya, the sheet dmg reduction from armor is misleading. Basalt flask beats it silly. Assuming we're talking big hits which are what matters.
Done plenty of t15's and guardians with 3k armor. Done it with 25k armor. It depends on the build, gear and skill set lay out.

Also, you have to think about enfeeble, endurance charges, dodge etc. You're saying /insert arbitrary number of armour is what you need, which is totally wrong.

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iamstryker wrote:

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I didn't say you were boasting. But you will understand once you face a Minotaur for the first time.

I just solo'd the minotaur and was not impressed. Maybe now all of you might reconsider how good block is.

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Nephalim wrote:

It really depends on consistent over time, that is, how many deaths would you incur in 100 Minotaur runs vs if you could do a single one deathless.

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iamstryker wrote:

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Nephalim wrote:

It really depends on consistent over time, that is, how many deaths would you incur in 100 Minotaur runs vs if you could do a single one deathless.

It's funny how people keep moving the goal post. You say block builds can't do something and when they do you just request to do something more difficult.

If I record a video doing the minotaur deathless you just ask me to do it 100 more times? I think I proved my point that block is a very strong defense if built well. I don't think anyone was ever claiming that block builds are the best builds in the game.

Edit: Also I never quit/alt F4 to keep from dying.

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Nephalim wrote:

People have done atziri deathless with a 1 life 1 es build but one run alone is not enough to prove the long term viability of a defensive or evasive mechanism.

I could make an evasion heavy strike elementalist do minotaur deathless at least once if I tried enough time but single instance viability is not what's in question. Block is not a meaningful defensive mechanism at it's current investment cost and certainly not in a game where mobs spike you for health than you have.