"You are just spoiled from Legacy and Breach being loot pinatas"
" Players that play 1K hours and don't get much quality loot in a couple 100 hours have to justify the time sunk into playing to get any good gear otherwise the reality of that much of their life is gone for nothing will make them quit. So Harbinger is a bust challenge league. Chris said they will buff soon but unless it's a major buff it will still be a dead league. I'm only playing SSF to start over to get fresh play of 10 acts. I'll also go back and respec'ing a few Standard league builds for using gear I'll never get in the 3 month league. But Harbinger being loot starvation after Legacy is same as last year after Perandus we got Prophecy which was much less quality loot. But the "all hands on deck" to push out the 10 act PoE 3.0 meant very little time for any significant new challenge league mechanics and also so the challenge league does not steal the spotlight away from FoO. "You've got to grind, grind, grind at that grindstone..."
Necessity may be the mother of invention, but poor QoP in PoE is the father of frustration. The perfect solution to fix Trade Chat: www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2247070 |
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i love it how people call it balance when GGG straight up killed glasscannon builds and forces everyone to "adapt or die" rebooting boring selfplaying builds with near 0 brainactivity involved such as RF totembuilds srs aurabots.
gimping ES to make it as bad if not worse as LIFE is not balancing , its idiocracy. allowing life to still play VP but not ES is also dumdum. cutting ES by 1/3rd but not upping life makes no sense to me. 3.0 shifted the "balance" from fun fast lots of possible builds to boring stale memecutters with little to no new innovation. OH LOOK I AM RF AND SCORCHRAY HEEHURP I AM SRS I SPAM SKULLS AND MOVE AROUND I AM AURABOT IVE NO DIGNITY AND LIKE TO LEACH OR PLAY WITH FRIENDS ONLY I AM FROSTBLADES I AM SUNDER I AM WARCHIEFS I AM XTOTEMBUILD those are from the top of my head , this game is turning into diablo3 when it tried to be VERSATILE. right now i see little to no versatility whatsoever in it. just plain forced garbage that players have to deal with. |
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I recognize that Legacy league spoiled me with loot pinatas.
I recognize that I want to be continuously spoiled with loot pinatas. This is a video game, the focus should be fun, challenging, but also rewarding. If you're looking for endless grind with little to no reward I'm sure the DMV is hiring. Also GGG came out and said they recognized Harbinger does not have the proper time vs. reward and are changing it. Back to our pinatas! |
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The problem I have with this league is that the endgame doesn't feel rewarding, and leveling is stale. I remember in legacy I could:
Collect talisman, perandus coins, and prophecy coins all in a single map, focusing on map currency types. Roll a map with breach, beyond, and tempest for a bunch of insanely dense maps with good drops. Place warbands, anarchy, and torment in a single map to try and improve my chances of pushing ghosts into notable objects to see what I get. Go hard on quality/quantity with some magic tempest, onslaught, and rampage leaguestones, and aim for more map drops. Go for essences when I want to roll some more specific stats on some gear, or even put nemesis with the prismatic ring drops, breach, and beyond, and go hard on ring collection for chaos trades. The reason I found these things fun is that I not only got a lot more control over what I was doing during mapping — not only getting items and experience at a much more satisfying rate — but also allowing me to focus on what I wanted to go for. See, I can do trading fine and all... but I don't like trading. That's not what I come to play ARPGs for; I come to build up a character, and complete differing challenges (bosses, arenas, hell, I even like the newer labyrinth secret/reward setup) to obtain better gear.. I expect that gear gain to come from completing those challenges, not sitting around in a chat log or on POE trade selling & buying items. This whole trade focus reeks of Diablo 3's initial auction house; the paid portion was a problem, but the other main issue is that the drops were really crappy, so you needed to trade on the auction house to reliably gear for anything late game; sound familiar? Without a lot going on like there was in previous leagues (especially legacy; I can't say much about breach because I wasn't there), the progression feels very slow to me, and the repetition in mapping starts to settle in much sooner; I'm running maps to sustain higher maps, but nothing very exciting is happening except for the occasional prophecy trigger. Things are normal, and harbingers are there I suppose, but they are boring as they don't add much to what is happening. I genuinely don't think I would have noticed that much if legacy was just part of the normal game, but since we only have harbingers now, it's very noticeable just low little is going on by base. Also — on a separate note for the talk on balance — I don't feel great knowing one of the three primary defensive item stats (energy shield) is garbage now. Don't get me wrong; I love that health has gotten some slight boosts, since I've always preferred how health functions to ES, but when it comes down to it, the health rolls are still very low, and energy shield going from crazy to useless isn't exactly what the game needed; it only deepens the reality that your choices for builds each league are limited, and aren't much expanding due to the constant cycle of nerfs. I'd rather let powerful builds remain with small nerfs, and instead push everything else up to be better/buff other things. By nerfing things in an extreme fashion and buffing other things slightly, it results in there being no standard to which to build balance around. By having powerful builds that are considered "balanced" in some way, you can look at other builds, and actually use the good builds as a standard. Furthermore, by nerfing hard, people will often immediately jump away from an item, meaning that you can never tell if the item is useful anymore; too many have left to the next best thing. You need to nerf lightly; the point in which people generally stop using the item with light nerfs, means that you'll better understand when the nerfs have gone too far, and can re-buff it by a single increment — one of the small increments it was nerfed by. A single (or a couple) heavy nerf(s) will never reveal this, and those at GGG generally refuse (as can be seen by their updates and balance decisions) to perform slight nerfs, always resulting in large meta shifts, and never creating any real balance. This isn't a problem exclusive to GGG; a lot of developers do this, and it never works out very well. |
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" As opposed to before, where we were all playing off-meta hipster builds and everything felt viable? And lets not pretend that the so called "glass cannon" builds were how you built CI toons in general. As many points in damage as you could afford, and as little in defensive mechanics as you needed. And a 9k ES build still doesnt count as a "glass cannon". |
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" you forgot mines, they are totally a thing now Ziggy told me so I dont see any any key!
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" People don't play much this league, because it's boring. Do you understand? B.O.R.I.N.G. Has nothing to do with progress. This league is lame as fuck, and some of you guys actually defend it. So stop linking your mediocre character and life, to make a point. You barely played this game. |
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cant remember i was so bored 1 week into a league like this time (and i mostly watches TI instead of playing).
the nerf coil now shows it was too hard without ANY compensation. even legacy league i played nearly to the bitter end, but now after 1 week i cant motivate myself to do anything in the game or even log in. its not only the useless league, its the whole package. leveling was fun, new acts are great, but what then? pretty upset how 3.0 went atleast for me, hope something will change in next leagues so that i can be excited to log in and have lots of fun in the game. |
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" Hell. +1. Told them. It's like we had WoW Vanilla (run mongo satyle for hours)se devs not playing their game and then we suddenly got burning crusade (stuff to do everywhere). Now they expect us to go back to Vanilla and keep quiet. Fking please. #devs_playing_the_game_lolol Also, every other league is utter shit. I knew this one would be. |
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" Random pleb using rhetorical shit to appear intelligent. At times I long for the time when people of limited intellect were keeping quiet. |
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