Donald Trump and US politics

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tramshed wrote:
Judging from Trumps past business performance, and current presidential performance, its quite obvious he didnt run anything that required more than one page of reading, preferably with maps and bullet points.


Sounds about right. I bet he just signs any EO Pence and Bannon put in front of him.
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Manocean wrote:
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SarahAustin wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzqbE7yYxE0 Enjoy your illiterate president.


What's your level of education and job title? I'm pretty interested considering you post a lot about how people are dumb or illiterate.


Irrelevant. Trump is the one with the job, he's the one who needs to not suck at it.
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Upandatem wrote:
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Manocean wrote:
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SarahAustin wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzqbE7yYxE0 Enjoy your illiterate president.


What's your level of education and job title? I'm pretty interested considering you post a lot about how people are dumb or illiterate.


Irrelevant. Trump is the one with the job, he's the one who needs to not suck at it.


Relevant to the hilarious irony

Trump is anything but dumb given his resume
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Bars wrote:
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SarahAustin wrote:


Trump supporters arent known to be smart...


I've always harbored a strong suspicion you're a masterful troll, but nevertheless I'll bite.

Of the two camps, Trump supporters in this thread have the much more rational and intellectual approach to the discussion, as far as there's any discussion at all. The anti-trump side seems to mostly throw insults, emotional language and tantrums around.

Even the most reasonable of them. Case in point, my latest talk with Budget Player Cadet. His argument against a video was basically "the author is a douchebag". I explained in detail why I have no issues with the video and had a laugh with it, to which Budget Player said, "shit". It's a colorful and expressive word, but it doesn't exactly convey an intellectual approach to the discussion.


If people think the the author is being a douchebag, and you laugh at that same video, that would probably make you a douchebag. If you didn't realize that, it would be incredibly enlightening experience. People are stupid, if they don't fight back. I am not against people throwing insults. When someone does it, it is fair game.

You know what is a more rational and intellectual approach to this? Take my own advice from the previous closed thread and leave the Trump supporters to circle jerk themselves. The previous thread is closed because it is toxic. Hey, you can always open another one...



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Manocean wrote:
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Upandatem wrote:
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Manocean wrote:


What's your level of education and job title? I'm pretty interested considering you post a lot about how people are dumb or illiterate.


Irrelevant. Trump is the one with the job, he's the one who needs to not suck at it.


Relevant to the hilarious irony

Trump is anything but dumb given his resume


He went bankrupt several times and was born rich. He didnt work for shit. He also bailed out his son which is just another of his stupid conflicts.
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deathflower wrote:
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Bars wrote:
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SarahAustin wrote:


Trump supporters arent known to be smart...


I've always harbored a strong suspicion you're a masterful troll, but nevertheless I'll bite.

Of the two camps, Trump supporters in this thread have the much more rational and intellectual approach to the discussion, as far as there's any discussion at all. The anti-trump side seems to mostly throw insults, emotional language and tantrums around.

Even the most reasonable of them. Case in point, my latest talk with Budget Player Cadet. His argument against a video was basically "the author is a douchebag". I explained in detail why I have no issues with the video and had a laugh with it, to which Budget Player said, "shit". It's a colorful and expressive word, but it doesn't exactly convey an intellectual approach to the discussion.


If people think the the author is being a douchebag, and you laugh at that same video, that would probably make you a douchebag. If you didn't realize that, it would be incredibly enlightening experience. People are stupid, if they don't fight back. I am not against people throwing insults. When someone does it, it is fair game.

You know what is a more rational and intellectual approach to this? Take my own advice from the previous closed thread and leave the Trump supporters to circle jerk themselves. The previous thread is closed because it is toxic. Hey, you can always open another one...





Yeah, i should just let them deal with their superior master president. In 4 years they sing a different tune.
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Manocean wrote:


Relevant to the hilarious irony


Irony is when a large part of the american people were so fed up with corporate billionaires governing their government that they elected a corporate billionare for POTUS.

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Trump is anything but dumb given his resume


He is not in business anymore. At least, I don't think he's supposed to be.

Didn't pay much attention to him prior to his rise as republican candidate, but since then he mostly conjures images of monty python's upperclass twit of the year in my mind. In particular his campaign, wich was a whole lot of barely coherent loud words, accusations, pie-tossing, ego-stroking and assorted nonsense. How that impressed anyone is beyond me. So forgive me if I'm not joining the club; the man is a complete buffoon.

You won't get no glory on that side of the hole.
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Upandatem wrote:

Didn't pay much attention to him prior to his rise as republican candidate, but since then he mostly conjures images of monty python's upperclass twit of the year in my mind. In particular his campaign, wich was a whole lot of barely coherent loud words, accusations, pie-tossing, ego-stroking and assorted nonsense. How that impressed anyone is beyond me. So forgive me if I'm not joining the club; the man is a complete buffoon.



True, but all that is calculated manipulation.

He is brilliant regardless of how he uses it. Which is more than I could say for Clintons campaign. She came off like a planted patsy.
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I just leave this here...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSOthhIkd2o

It gets better:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfYQvkBhn4I

Yep, the leader of america.
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SarahAustin wrote:
He went bankrupt several times and was born rich. He didnt work for shit. He also bailed out his son which is just another of his stupid conflicts.


I'm pretty sure Sarah is trolling, or perhaps is a Trump supporter trying to make democrats look bad. Some of the stuff is just too ignorant to not be deliberate.

For the benefit of anyone else reading this comment: Trump never went through a personal bankruptcy.

He owns/controls over 500 businesses. Four of those underwent a bankruptcy proceeding in the last 25 years (1991, 1992, 2004, 2009), which were chapter 11 bankruptcy proceedings (for reorganization - they did not go defunct). If you understand anything about business mortality, you'd realize how good this record is.

If you have doubts, look up business survival rates. Google it or use the business source complete academic journal database. For firms founded in the U.S., you're looking at a 10-year survival rate of about 10% and a 40-year survival rate under 0.1%. Meaning, if 500 businesses were governed by average market performance, you'd expect 450 of them to go under within 10 years.

Of course, a lot of startups fail quickly. You can look at the mortality rates of large well-established firms exclusively, and you'll find that these have an estimated lifespan of under 15 years.

So 4/500+ businesses requiring a reorganization over a 25-year period? That's outstanding. Trump's business record is fucking outstanding. This is literally the most personally successful president the US has ever had, and it's not someone who road the coattails of their fathers name/connections to get elected (like Bush Jr.).

How Trump will perform as president remains to be seen, but to disparage his business record has no basis in reality.
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