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Dude, you clearly have issues, asking Peng to strip in order to validate her condition....[Removed by Support] You need to grow the hell up. Last edited by Al_GGG on Mar 21, 2017, 10:34:17 PM	Posted by InfinityCircle on Mar 21, 2017, 10:26:52 PM Quote this Post
" InfinityCircle wrote: Dude, you clearly have issues, asking Peng to strip in order to validate her condition....[Removed by Support] You need to grow the hell up. Let's be honest: Moist wants to see Deadpeng strip. You can hear him chomping at the bit from all the way across the Pacific.	Posted by pneuma on Mar 21, 2017, 10:30:01 PM Alpha Member Quote this Post
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" Deadpeng wrote: " eviL_Bison wrote: But what about your Family? Colleagues? "not so close" friends? I really did not get much 'hate', but more of fear. . This isn't going to be a popular post so I'm putting it in a spoiler. You can consider this your trigger warning. Spoiler I'd be concerned if a family member or close friend was in your position too. The mental health statistics for transgender people (especially post surgery) are shocking and scary by any standards. It's not that you're telling your family that you want bewbs and a bra, it's telling them that you're considerably more likely than the general population to kill yourself or suffer from mental problems. Why wouldn't that make your friends and family fearful? Being true to yourself is very important, but post surgery transgender people have statistically far higher rates of depression than non transgender people, so it's hard to be convinced that they are doing what makes them happy.	Posted by MonstaMunch on Mar 21, 2017, 10:56:22 PM Alpha Member Quote this Post
" Rexeos wrote: " Moist wrote: I was joking. I suck at jokes. It's whatever to me. I found it hilarious that i received edits on a couple of my posts. But yeah, like i said, its whatever to me. I was more concerned with the fact that somebody decided to publicly post this for the whole world to see. There are plenty of people out there more brutal than I. I had minimal idea I was being offensive. That wasn't the point of my post... You wasnt offensive at all. Dont buy this crap. Just Knights on White Horses are protecting Princess... no matter if princess has penis or not. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmvSgvy7a34 This was pretty funny lol Don't forget to drink your milk 👌	Posted by TheWretch on Mar 21, 2017, 10:57:04 PM Quote this Post
" MonstaMunch wrote: " Deadpeng wrote: " eviL_Bison wrote: But what about your Family? Colleagues? "not so close" friends? I really did not get much 'hate', but more of fear. . This isn't going to be a popular post so I'm putting it in a spoiler. You can consider this your trigger warning. Spoiler I'd be concerned if a family member or close friend was in your position too. The mental health statistics for transgender people (especially post surgery) are shocking and scary by any standards. It's not that you're telling your family that you want bewbs and a bra, it's telling them that you're considerably more likely than the general population to kill yourself or suffer from mental problems. Why wouldn't that make your friends and family fearful? Being true to yourself is very important, but post surgery transgender people have statistically far higher rates of depression than non transgender people, so it's hard to be convinced that they are doing what makes them happy. Huh? To make the statistics more relevant one needs a comparison between post and pre OP transgender people isn't it? What is the point of comparing transgenders with cisgenders since we cannot simply remove our gender dysphoria?	Posted by Deleted on Mar 21, 2017, 11:37:03 PM
" 鬼殺し wrote: A friend made the argument, gently, that they felt trans people place identity above science. And it's kind of true, if you assume identity isn't somehow genetic. But here's the punchline. You know who else put identity before and in spite of science? Fundamental Christians who attack trans people for being true to their idea of identity. It's just too much irony. I can't even. You would be surprised about my identity in life then.	Posted by Deleted on Mar 21, 2017, 11:39:06 PM
Again, anything I put in this thread is going in spoilers as I can understand why some people would rather not read it. Spoiler " 鬼殺し wrote: A friend made the argument, gently, that they felt trans people place identity above science. And it's kind of true, if you assume identity isn't somehow genetic. It's not just kind of true, it is a demonstrable fact. Feelings of identity have nothing to do with science (and more specifically, biology). " But here's the punchline. You know who else put identity before and in spite of science? Fundamental Christians who attack trans people for being true to their idea of identity. It's just too much irony. I can't even. While I have no time for religious fundamentalists, I would point out that in theory they are attacking people for going against what they think God wants. If they were right and God really wanted us to attack people for doing things that he doesn't want us to do, then what they are doing would be morally righteous, under Divine Command theory. Just like under divine command, killing babies would be morally righteous if its what God really wanted us to do. Its a slippery slope that has led to the deaths of millions over the years, all in the name of God. Anyone who follows and abrahamic religion who then attempts to science as an argument for anything is always going to be coated in irony.	Posted by MonstaMunch on Mar 21, 2017, 11:42:06 PM Alpha Member Quote this Post
Question is, did it really need to be edited?	Posted by InfinityCircle on Mar 21, 2017, 11:46:50 PM Quote this Post
" Deadpeng wrote: Huh? To make the statistics more relevant one needs a comparison between post and pre OP transgender people isn't it? What is the point of comparing transgenders with cisgenders since we cannot simply remove our gender dysphoria? First up to answer that directly: Spoiler "A 2011 study at the Karolinska Institute in Sweden produced the most illuminating results yet regarding the transgendered [sic], evidence that should give advocates pause. The long-term study—up to 30 years—followed 324 people who had sex-reassignment surgery. The study revealed that beginning about 10 years after having the surgery, the transgendered [sic] began to experience increasing mental difficulties. Most shockingly, their suicide mortality rose almost 20-fold above the comparable nontransgender population." Sorry but again, these are simple facts and statistics which I'm sure you're already aware of. Secondly and less directly but to me more interestingly: Spoiler Do you see how what you just wrote could be interpreted to mean that you yourself think of transgenderism as either a cause or effect of mental illness? If we aren't allowed to compare rates of mental health problems between transgender and cis people, do you not see what that in itself implies? Last edited by MonstaMunch on Mar 21, 2017, 11:57:16 PM	Posted by MonstaMunch on Mar 21, 2017, 11:53:46 PM Alpha Member Quote this Post