Please scale spectres up as well as down (Or another alternative for summoner QoL)

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tryhardgg wrote:

Summoners had been forever ignored . When they got powerfull ofc , they got nerfed and the spectres got nerfed to the ground . Every other build can stay OP for years but not summoners they have to be broken and unfun to play .

GGG clearly doesn't like us to play summoners .

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JusJev wrote:

IMO it would be so EASY TO FIX.

Look at desecrate gem.. it literally scales up to lvl 100 corpse. When using detonate dead It therefore means that your dps will never fall off because you will always spawn a corpse of the appropriate level.

Why can't Raise spectre work similarly. I.E the gem takes properties from desecrate in that as you level it will say something like "summon spectres up to level 40 etc etc " and with that mechanism if I go to a lvl 35 zone, my minions will scale down to 35 and if I go to a 40 zone they go back up to 40. Just as how when desecrating for detonate dead you can't spawn lvl 75 hp corpses to help someone defeat normal malachai.

We must accept a penalty for this IMO. I know 80+ spectres are opop but lets settle for a maximum of lvl 78 spectres. That way no matter if I logout/crash If I go to crematorium and summon incinerators and go back into my village ruin map they WILL be lvl 78 rather than 63.

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Nssheepster wrote:

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JusJev wrote:

Also...Descrate CAN raise up to 100...but it's locked to ZONE level. So it doesn't ACTUALLY scale, it simply queries the ZONE level, not your level.

again I don't know if that's true, but what I read before regarding the topic of scaling, maplevel is a multiplicator in %.

every mob has a selection of "full" stats; health, speeds, damage, mana, etc etc pp.
when you raise or explode the corpses, the skill "looks up" the stats from the database and multiplicates it by the level.

totally wild guess example:
1000hp full health * 0.33 map, level cap is 33 = 330hp base explosion damage

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fusurugi wrote:

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Nssheepster wrote:

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JusJev wrote:

Also...Descrate CAN raise up to 100...but it's locked to ZONE level. So it doesn't ACTUALLY scale, it simply queries the ZONE level, not your level.

again I don't know if that's true, but what I read before regarding the topic of scaling, maplevel is a multiplicator in %.

every mob has a selection of "full" stats; health, speeds, damage, mana, etc etc pp.
when you raise or explode the corpses, the skill "looks up" the stats from the database and multiplicates it by the level.

totally wild guess example:
1000hp full health * 0.33 map, level cap is 33 = 330hp base explosion damage

A, a bit of a misqouting there, as I didn't type that, XD.

B, more importantly...If that WAS true, then you'd be saying GGG has to do the coding equivalent of adding an up button on a down only elevator. You'd be actively saying that GGG could simply add that existing function to spectres, just setting up a call to the same function, and the whole problem wold be fixed....At which point the obvious issue comes up.

Do you really think, if GGG could fix it so simply, that they really wouldn't have done it by now? Forget if you like GGG or not, forget catering to your player base, or balance....GGG would've done it just to shut us all up, if it was REALLY that easy.


C, Do we have any reason to believe this? At all? It seems like an unlikely way to code it anyways, a bit...untenable, and liable to need a LOT of fine tuning. For a sustainable game they'd be better off taking the time in the first place and simply making a version of that monster for every level, and just having the game call up the type and the stats for the zone level and rarity. It sounds like more work, but in the end it'd cause less issue and be easier to change later, especially as there aren't a ton of mob types, and there isn't infinite scaling.


EDIT: Okay, Edit system is just off. Forget my A.