6 Linking

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Buying a 6-link from Vorici, in my opinion, is NOT crafting.

If anything it removes the need for crafting for those players that have issues with RNG. You have a gauranteed way to get a 6 link, something that wasn't available before.

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The Vorici system is, or should be, in my opinion, only used as an option to upgrade corrupted items.

In this case it doesn't matter what you think it should be used for it is what it can be used for.


I am and probably will always be a PoE purest, I really enjoy the game as it is and above all the game doesn't need to be "easier" I am for QoL features, especially if they don't have downsides or significant downsides.

Things like this, the XP penalty, ect are all people complaining without base to do so, 6 linking shouldn't be made any easier. I would like to see the option of moving progress of links from one item to another "upgrade" meaning I could transfer a 5 link or 6 link from one rare to another, this is something Chris mentioned he wanted to be possible.

GGG makes a fantastic game, would really hate to see it ruined because of people that want all these things changed to make it easier.

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goetzjam wrote:

Do you think the game should be balanced around players that wish to do self found? Honest question

Honest answer to honest question. Yes.

I really think there should be offline mode, I would rather prefer never ever seeing another player while I play.

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aura0000 wrote:

I would like my game experience to be more rewarding also, and as such, there is a crafting system in place and if it worked properly then the 6-link wouldn't be an issue.

Expand on this. There's no way for it not to sound combative, but why do you feel you're entitled to equality here?

I can't speak for your experiences but I've spent probably 5k fusings into 6s items by this time. Over 2k in my marohi back in CB alone and generally I have decent 5l luck so I make those myself. In my 2 1/2 years playing, I've made 2 6ls, both last league btw so 2 years without making one. Shit outside of tabala, I've only owned 3 6ls (people would be extremely surprised at how poor I am with how often I play, cost of making so many shitty builds I guess). I've never once felt entitled to have a 6l, nor felt my build required one.

The first 6l I bought was because it was a CoC build, which feels much better in a 6l than 5l but it's a strong build none-the-less. I had the funds so I got it. The 2nd was the only logical upgrade I could make for my high lvl SWT build last season. I had 5 ex wands, next upgrade would be 10+, using carcass jack so I could pay and get a perfect one. 21 gems, jewelry was virtually impossible to improve, helm and boots no point. I had a building pile of currency with none to spend it on, so casually bought carcass jacks, 6s then attempt 6l, sold all the 5ls until finally my 11th attempt was a 6l, my first self crafted one ever, 2 years of playing. 2nd one was that lightning staff, my attempt to 5l got me a 6l in 19 fuse. I paid for that this league spending 500 fuse to get a 5l on quill rain, I'm stubborn and pretty stupid.

But my entire time playing the game has felt like what the devs have intended, IMO, everything is possible on a 5l, outside of the CoC builds I've done, none of my builds have felt gimped for not being on a 6l. So I just don't understand the entitled rhetoric when the topic of 6 linking items comes up.

My only assumption is from most games now just allowing players easy access to all content. But if that's the real reason, POE has proven to not be that type of game.

So is the problem really inequality or expecting a game to do something it's purposely trying to avoid?

Again, not meant to be attacks, it's an attitude I've just never understood.

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TohtoriKuolema wrote:

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goetzjam wrote:

Do you think the game should be balanced around players that wish to do self found? Honest question

Honest answer to honest question. Yes.

I really think there should be offline mode, I would rather prefer never ever seeing another player while I play.

Except that isn't PoE. One day when GGG decides to stop developing it I hope they add the ability to play offline, until then the game cannot be balanced as such.

Call it what you want, you can't debate the fact that PoE is a great game. If I thought it was necessary to make the game easier or allow for easier 6 linking then I would support it, but you all (especially rex) resort to calling people trolls if they disagree with you.

Lol before Vorici people were crying because they spent xx amount of fuses without getting 6l.

Now they cry because 1500 is "too much", they gamble instead- and loose.

Personally i don't give a f*** about Vorici, i'll never pay her for 6l, if I lose who gives a f***, every content is beatable with 5l.
If the recipe is 700 fuses people would still gamble.

I don't understand what people want? Free 6l when they made new char?

Game is perfectly viable even for self found players.
You have 6s recipe,6l recipe, master with multimod option for your end-game weapon, you can color your gear, add resists/life/mana/leech/.../ on jewelry. Everything is here.

I don't think one player is qualified to say how people feel about another player's posts. To be frank, we shouldn't be prejudiced that way. Just because someone made a comment you strongly disagree with doesn't mean they'll always be wrong on different topics, or that they can't change their mind, or you can't change yours. How you feel about a forumer should be irrelevent.

Debate the message, folks. Not the person. I know it's tempting, I've done it too, but that shit ain't right.

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[lel Yeran it's spelled "player's"]

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

I don't think one player is qualified to say how people feel about player's posts. To be frank, we shouldn't be prejudiced that way. Just because someone made a comment you strongly disagree with doesn't mean they'll always be wrong on different topics, or that they can't change their mind, or you can't change yours. How you feel about a forumer should be irrelevent.

Debate the message, folks. Not the person. I know it's tempting, I've done it too, but that shit ain't right.

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I can tell you how people feel about it, because they have said as much (and not just in this thread). Also, I don't claim he's wrong about everything--I even agree with some of his posts. I've stated that quite clearly. However, I agree with you. That is what should be happening here. It's what I would prefer the Feedback forums be used for. It's just hard to see that happening when he whips out his superiority complex and starts swinging at people in every thread, as if he somehow knows what PoE should be more than anyone/everyone else who plays. It needs to stop. That shit has polluted far too much of the forum and prevented productive discussion from taking place.

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You don't know what's best for this game

I can tell you what's definitely NOT best for this game: making 6L easier to get.

It's an endgame item and any casual ought to be able to get one within a few months. If you can't (aka 490 fusings in ~1050 hours played), then YOU ARE PLAYING THE GAME WRONGLY if your goal is to acquire GG gear.

The solution is for you to modify/improve your playstyle, not for GGG to cheapen the acquisition of endgame gear.

If you think 1200 instead of 1500 makes it any less of "end game" gear, maybe it's you who is playing the wrong game? You can't tell me that it would actually hurt the game either, that's just speculation (and one without any sort of reference point). If anything, all it would do is shift those currencies around the economy or see more of it sunk into 6L gear, which encourages more build diversity through experimentation, alt characters, a minor increase in end-game map accessibility (for those who know how to use a 6L), etc. It's still far from "free," and there's no guarantee it will be used on top end gear either (plenty of newbs out there), so you can drop the whole "the sky is falling" routine. There's been enough of that in this thread already.