Still no balance a year later - with facts
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nothing in the OP is a important or interesting fact, its just a bunch of random observations
would be nice if you actually bothered to look at the tree and provide some feedback on why you think shadows are weak instead of just saying "BUFF SHADOW NOT MANY PEOPLE PLAY SHADOW SO IT MUST BE BAD" top job mate.... I carve and sell real animal skulls, check out my work here: https://www.instagram.com/victorseiche/ https://www.facebook.com/victorseicheart/ World first Uber Atziri as 2h and 2h RT build: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1058950 Highest level char in Closed Beta, Wytchfindergeneral Last edited by VictorDoom#6290 on Nov 24, 2014, 2:14:54 PM
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" I'd wreck you really hard but I'm just off of probation so I'll give you a pass. Don't get used to it though :P and l2fact GGG banning all political discussion shortly after getting acquired by China is a weird coincidence.
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What a hilarious thread. I do kind of admire OP for his dedication in trolling though. His "discussion" tactics are textbook example of trolling.
EDIT: Let's add some facts as well. Class representation in Beyond was Class top-100% (top-15k%) Witch 43% (33.67%) Ranger 22% (19.99%) Scion 9% (9.25%) Shadow 10% (12.98%) Templar 9% (6.45%) Marauder 5% (12.59%) Duelist 2% (5.07%) The first thing that catches my attention is this: Female 74% (62.91%) vs Male 26% (37.09%). Female characters are far more popular than male characters. My interpretation of this fact is that majority of players are male and aesthetics draws them more towards female characters. Even Scion which is widely considered the worst class in game was played almost as much as two most popular male classes. Second thing I notice is that two classes have considerably higher representation in top-100 than in top-15k. Before the leagues started ES was considered a huge winner of the passive tree changes. Other than that elemental damage nodes got buffed and SRS was hugely popular. It's no surprise that Witch and Templar are the big winners due to FotM's. Tornado Shot was also very popular but the lack of other hugely popular options kept Ranger ratios around the same in both sections. The biggest loser in rankings was Marauder. Generally in games there's two rather popular melee approaches; 2-handers with big slow hits and faster crit based builds. Marauder clearly showed us in these challenge leagues that 2-hander way is not working in PoE at the moment. Duelist was also big loser but the numbers are so small to begin with that too much conclusions can't be drawn form them (except that players in general don't like where Duelist is at the moment). Rest of the classes have similar ratios in both tops. In general Beyond was considered somewhat melee unfriendly. The classes hurt most by this are Marauder and Duelist with lesser effect to Shadow. Not surprisingly Marauder and Duelist fared worst according to numbers. Shadow on the other hand was close to its top-15k representation in top-100 as well even though a good portion of Shadow builds suffered from the league settings. FotM's and general preference for ranged builds (elemental spell builds even) pushed Witch and Templar to best performers. TL;DR: OP says under presentation equals under performing. I say BS. You have to look at the larger picture to draw conclusions. Last edited by kuukkeli#6751 on Nov 24, 2014, 5:04:09 PM
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" I know, males are under performing. Nerf females, NOW! :D |
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" FOTM is what happens when a class is selected more often than another class. Performance drop is what happens when a class is selected at a certain percentage and then fails to match that percentage in higher brackets. I've already explained this 5 fucking times, why are you even here? Keep spreading that misinformation champ. my evasion is so high i only insta rip sometimes ----- Bug Fixes: People were using cyclone for actual melee builds, so we nerfed it and made blade vortex. Also, we went ahead and made cyclone great for CoC casters while we were at it. Last edited by Legatus1982#1658 on Nov 24, 2014, 6:45:15 PM
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" You literally just said what I've been saying from the beginning, I'm not even sure how you are pretending to argue with me in this post. +1 for a well done analysis, and I'm not sure what you're arguing with me on. Also, it is worth noting that shadows are only performing at a 2.98% loss while duelists are at 3.07%, a difference of less than a tenth of a percent in performance in that bracket. I'd really love it if you increased the size of the brackets a few times to see 200's, 500's etc. my evasion is so high i only insta rip sometimes ----- Bug Fixes: People were using cyclone for actual melee builds, so we nerfed it and made blade vortex. Also, we went ahead and made cyclone great for CoC casters while we were at it. Last edited by Legatus1982#1658 on Nov 24, 2014, 6:58:33 PM
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" Typical troll my evasion is so high i only insta rip sometimes
----- Bug Fixes: People were using cyclone for actual melee builds, so we nerfed it and made blade vortex. Also, we went ahead and made cyclone great for CoC casters while we were at it. |
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" [Removed by Support] If a class is selected 13% out of a 15k group, and in the top 100 there are 10 of that class (out of 7 possible classes, 5 of which are dead), that class is underperforming in that bracket. Additionally, when a class has well over a 50% mortality rate in the top brackets relative to a normal mortality rate of say, 20-30%, it is facing an increased risk of death at higher levels. [Removed by Support] Now as far as marauders and duelists, I've made enough attempts to demonstrate that duelists are underperforming and the [Removed by Support]. Interesting. As I've said several times the only reason I went with shadow is because I have old posts from March and April demonstrating the underperformance was the same then as it is now, despite any "buffs" the class may have received. There are still no opinions here other than the [Removed by Support] arguing with me about what is and is not a fact and continually and intentionally misrepresenting my text. my evasion is so high i only insta rip sometimes ----- Bug Fixes: People were using cyclone for actual melee builds, so we nerfed it and made blade vortex. Also, we went ahead and made cyclone great for CoC casters while we were at it. Last edited by Jared_GGG#0000 on Nov 24, 2014, 7:09:22 PM
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