The Mathil Tornado/Puncture Spec - Cheap Uber Atziri Viable

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Ark20 wrote:

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hunTShoo wrote:

Short question about the suffix priority:
I just found:

should i craft critmulti, critchance or ias?
Am I right that I could even craft 2 suffixes on this bow, when the master got the highest level? (lvl6 atm) In this case I should keep lvling her and wait with crafting right?

I'd say crit chance. To craft multiple mods you need Elreon level 8 mod ("can craft multiple mods"), but that happens to be a suffix itself. Since your bow has 3 prefixes and 1 suffix, theres no point in getting the Elreon mod, you can only master-craft one suffix either way.

Thanks a lot!

e: Could I use an exalt after crafting the 5th mod?

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hunTShoo wrote:

e: Could I use an exalt after crafting the 5th mod?

yes, but don't forget that the item can have a total of 3 prefixes and 3 suffixes. You can't get 4 and 2 in any way

Ok I'm confused. My PPAD hit level 20 and I was thinking about doing the 20Q recipe. Is there any difference between the "% increased phys dmg" from the quality and the "% more phys dmg" from the basic gem?

Edit: they multiply each other? that sounds stronk.

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cloudscraper wrote:

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hunTShoo wrote:

e: Could I use an exalt after crafting the 5th mod?

yes, but don't forget that the item can have a total of 3 prefixes and 3 suffixes. You can't get 4 and 2 in any way

True, but afaik crit chance, crit multiplier and ias are all suffixes. The bow has 3 pre- and 1 suffix right now. With the enchantment and an exalt i could add 2 additional suffixes.

I'm not sure if the bow is worth the eternal/exalt comb, but in theorie it would be possible, right?

Do you have any tool or guideline to simulate effective DPS of similar bows?

For example:
- how important is pDPS compared to eDPS compared to total DPS?
- how important is bow's "tooltip" critical strike chance?
- how important are APS?

ty

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hunTShoo wrote:

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cloudscraper wrote:

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hunTShoo wrote:

e: Could I use an exalt after crafting the 5th mod?

yes, but don't forget that the item can have a total of 3 prefixes and 3 suffixes. You can't get 4 and 2 in any way

True, but afaik crit chance, crit multiplier and ias are all suffixes. The bow has 3 pre- and 1 suffix right now. With the enchantment and an exalt i could add 2 additional suffixes.

I'm not sure if the bow is worth the eternal/exalt comb, but in theorie it would be possible, right?

crit multi and ias are both SUFFIXES.

I'm currently using this bow:


Works pretty well, but I see everyone mostly using harbingers. Would that be substantially better than Death's Harp, and how expensive are they? Or what kind of bow should I look for?

Great build!

Death Harp is pretty awesome for its price. I was clearing lvl 69 maps (was lvl 65) in a couple of mins. I just crafted myself a bow ~250 Pdps with like 90% crit and my DPS basically doubled.

Compared to the death harp, now mobs die in one crit instead of 2-3. Speed doesn't feel too different. Guess the biggest difference is single target.

Hey Mathil, just wanted to say thanks for the build! Beat Atziri on my first attempt tonight. Died 3 times but still... fun build!

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saxisa wrote:

I'm currently using this bow:

Works pretty well, but I see everyone mostly using harbingers. Would that be substantially better than Death's Harp, and how expensive are they? Or what kind of bow should I look for?

Great build!

Death's Harp is the king of kings up to 53, at which point if you have a good decimation to take over you'll gain many deeps. It'll still hold up for a while but by the point you're at Harbingers then even a mid tier one will be waaaay better. I'd look into buying a cheap one at the very least.

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thesomberlain wrote:

Hey Mathil, just wanted to say thanks for the build! Beat Atziri on my first attempt tonight. Died 3 times but still... fun build!

Good stuff, always great to hear!