How are players with default stash tabs supposed to complete "Own these unique items" challenge?

Well if you are going for challenges you are going to have to make 6 characters at a minimum.

However yes, if you want to play at a higher level you really NEED stash tabs. I think I'm up to 28.

EDIT: The fact that you could have 21 or 24 or whatever amount of characters it is on your account by default was a surprise to me in a free to play game. They usually scumbag you on those with like 2 slots or something.

In a game like this where you can have infinite storage if you really want to pay for it, I'm ok with it. In games like Tera and Rift where they have actually removed storage that was there before hand in order to sell it to new players since its pretty much a necessity, that I think is a dick move.

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rrtson wrote:

Paid stash tabs is a P2W mechanic. End of story.

You are limited to 4 stash tabs and 24 "mule" characters. You will eventually hit a hard cap as to how many items your account is able to hold. For those of you saying you can create infinite amount of accounts, the problem is still there. Time = player advantage. If a player is able to save time with convenient stash tabs, then that extra time can be used to farm more efficiently (compared to someone else who has to spend a few minutes logging on/off every single time they want to transfer items).

Paid stash tabs is sort of like if Monopoly limited the # of properties each players is able to have at any given time. Want to own 'Boardwalk', but already have 5 other properties in your possession? Too bad. Either sell one of your properties, or pay us some $$$ for more "property slots". This would give clear player advantage to those who are able to spend $$$.

Trading one full stash tab from one of my accounts to another literally takes me two minutes. (start second client -> login -> shift-click the stuff I don't need -> trade).

You people act as if transfering items to a different account is a massively time-consuming process, lol?

I would have alot more sympathy for the people complaining in this thread if transfering items was a complex and time-consuming process, but it just isn't.

I really don't understand the issue here, you people don't want to pay for stash tabs or simply cannot afford to pay, which is fine, but then go on the forums to complain about how you don't have enough stash tabs and refuse to use multiple accounts to simply make it a non-issue.

What's up with this generation of self-entitled gamers? I have 50 tabs on my main and still use multiple accounts, because I don't want to spend money on more character slots, but some of the people in this thread feel like they are naturally above that and feel entitled to more.

I would hate to be GGG. You offer people a completely free game, but the moment things get slightly inconvenient the crowd of people that doesn't support the devs at all demands even more free stuff.

It's not that you can't work around it, you just won't do it because it's less convenient.

Jesus...

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SlixSC wrote:

Trading one full stash tab from one of my accounts to another literally takes me two minutes.

That is exactly what I mean.

Time = player advantage

2 minutes x 1000 times = 2000 minutes = 33 hours saved/wasted

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rrtson wrote:

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SlixSC wrote:

Trading one full stash tab from one of my accounts to another literally takes me two minutes.

That is exactly what I mean.

Time = player advantage

2 minutes x 1000 times = 2000 minutes = 33 hours saved/wasted

In what world are you doing this a thousand times? I use multiple accounts that only have 4 stash tabs and had to do it maybe 50 times in the last 4 months. (I spent the majority of my time in the last 4 months playing with 4 stash tabs on an alt and leveled to 89)

Here I'll do the logistics for you to help you out.

1 stash tab of currency you plan on using (for rolling maps, general utility), 1 stash tab for maps, 1 stash tab for things you are actively trying to sell, 1 stash tab for other useful stuff (gems, etc..).

Things you are not actively using or trying to sell you stash on your alts and pool them together in a way that makes sense.

1 alt for high-end currency in case you want to craft an item/good gear you might want to sell eventually

1 alt for gems you don't use/maps that are too low/other stuff that generally isn't particularly useful but still worth keeping just in case

1 alt for leveling gear/uniques

It's not terribly complicated and I'm sure the ~ 2 hours spent in 4 months doing this isn't going to have a massive impact on anything.

If you have that much stuff saved, you're a hoarder. Plain and simple. There is absolutely no reason to keep that many items.

As far as the OP is concerned, since the items are for that league *by account*, creating mules in the league is 100% feasible should you feel the urge to do so.

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SL4Y3R wrote:

If you have that much stuff saved, you're a hoarder. Plain and simple. There is absolutely no reason to keep that many items.

As far as the OP is concerned, since the items are for that league *by account*, creating mules in the league is 100% feasible should you feel the urge to do so.

I'm a hoarder? You cannot possibly be serious.

When you factor in mules, you have 4 stash tabs and 24 character inventories. That is more than enough tabs to complete any and all challenges. What is the issue? Outside of people grasping at straws to try and justify that selling stash tabs are selling power(It isn't.)

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CliveHowlitzer wrote:

When you factor in mules, you have 96 free stash tabs on an account. That is more than enough tabs to complete any and all challenges. What is the issue? Outside of people grasping at straws to try and justify that selling stash tabs are selling power(It isn't.)

Actually, you don't. Mules don't have a seperate stash. But it's still *somewhere around 15 I would guess, which is plenty. For alt-characters you can always use alt-accounts. Less convenient, but it does the job well enough.

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rrtson wrote:

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SlixSC wrote:

Trading one full stash tab from one of my accounts to another literally takes me two minutes.

That is exactly what I mean.

Time = player advantage

2 minutes x 1000 times = 2000 minutes = 33 hours saved/wasted

And 2 minutes x 1,000,000 times = 2,000,000 minutes. Your point?

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SlixSC wrote:

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CliveHowlitzer wrote:

When you factor in mules, you have 96 free stash tabs on an account. That is more than enough tabs to complete any and all challenges. What is the issue? Outside of people grasping at straws to try and justify that selling stash tabs are selling power(It isn't.)

Actually, you don't. Mules don't have a seperate stash. But it's still *somewhere around 15 I would guess, which is plenty. For alt-characters you can always use alt-accounts. Less convenient, but it does the job well enough.

Yeah I don't know where my brain went for a second there.