1.2.0c AOF, Molten Strike, Herald of Ash

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solidghost wrote:

For the one handed and shield version, could we use doryani's instead?
The elemental damage mod will be impressive and extremely good for this build. Plus you get to use a shield for added defense (and life and resists).

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Killertortilla wrote:

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solidghost wrote:

Would infernal blow be a good alternative to molten strike?
Congrats on the BOTW as well.

I have tried infernal but the problem is it explodes monsters around it thereby preventing the prolif burn

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dyankov wrote:

I made a switch to AoF and molten strike, to see why everyone is using it, although it still doesn't make sense to me.

Anyway, my tooltip dps dropped to 12.5k with molten strike, down from 13.5k with heavy strike, which is about the same. But for some reason the burning damage feels A LOT stronger. I don't know why this is the case.

Current build:

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http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgEAxthYYz38jM_2SF8_f-PBBOOfMft5aGvZJy-bWAthFPbvDuRReA2GO7yfIVWpbr6KpKws-2xGtfIB3PIvOQ5ybG6qNZKkGalzMglKyP6P2L0b-tlhJd8ZLoTZJ-1lTW5p_EusqhRSvqdsFnKpUeZZ80d-hxl82bQvwBq9gWDEkFUZ6WaeITSnhMtD-tKexRo4DhQ26ew43sEkquNqV-IWbzKJGmwEs52uFE3wHxJpgziiABcc73xxeTwFn98=

Current stats (PoE planner):

175% increased phys damage with maces
36% increased melee phys damage
+58.4% increased melee phys damage (why? above it says 36%)
50% increased phys damage with 2H weapons
16% elemental damage with weapons

Links:

Molten Strike - Melee Phys - Added Fire - Wep Ele - Fire Pen
12.5k tooltip DPS

Weapon:

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Ignore the gems on this weapon.

Tooltip DPS when I remove each gem:
- without Melee Physical Damage - 8.8k
- without Added Fire - 9.8k
- without Weapon Ele Damage - 8.2k

I don't fully understand how damage is calculated and I don't know if I should keep my phys damage nodes, or spec out of them in favor of ele/fire damage.

Also, AoF and Molten Strike are kind of confusing together. So if I deal 1000 phys damage, AoF will convert 500 to fire damage, and then molten strike converts 500*0.6 to fire, or the other way around? Or they are summed together and capped at 100%, so all my phys damage is converted to fire damage?

Can anyone provide some math?

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gilrad wrote:

I'd say Doryani's can be just as good as a 2h if you have very little increased damage, since it comes with 100 or so on the item. If you have only 200% increased damage, a 300pdps Doryani's is equivalent to a 400dps weapon. Dual Dory's are even more insane thanks to the 20% damage boost (in addition to the buckets of increased damage that also buffs your burns).

Hey I just thought of something:

Hrimsorrow, Chernobog's Pillar, and Heavy Strike. As I mentioned above, Doryani's isn't all that far behind a decent 2h mace, so the extra 25% damage switching from Molten Strike to Heavy Strike could possibly make up for the slightly weaker shift to a 1h + shield.

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solidghost wrote:

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gilrad wrote:

I'd say Doryani's can be just as good as a 2h if you have very little increased damage, since it comes with 100 or so on the item. If you have only 200% increased damage, a 300pdps Doryani's is equivalent to a 400dps weapon. Dual Dory's are even more insane thanks to the 20% damage boost (in addition to the buckets of increased damage that also buffs your burns).

Hey I just thought of something:

Hrimsorrow, Chernobog's Pillar, and Heavy Strike. As I mentioned above, Doryani's isn't all that far behind a decent 2h mace, so the extra 25% damage switching from Molten Strike to Heavy Strike could possibly make up for the slightly weaker shift to a 1h + shield.

200% elemental damage from the two doryanis? Plus bonus from dual welding! WOW!

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solidghost wrote:

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Killertortilla wrote:

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solidghost wrote:

Would infernal blow be a good alternative to molten strike?
Congrats on the BOTW as well.

I have tried infernal but the problem is it explodes monsters around it thereby preventing the prolif burn

I think IB only blows up the target right? The monsters around it are not exploded if u dont use melee splash?

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gilrad wrote:

I'd say Doryani's can be just as good as a 2h if you have very little increased damage, since it comes with 100 or so on the item. If you have only 200% increased damage, a 300pdps Doryani's is equivalent to a 400dps weapon. Dual Dory's are even more insane thanks to the 20% damage boost (in addition to the buckets of increased damage that also buffs your burns).

Hey I just thought of something:

Hrimsorrow, Chernobog's Pillar, and Heavy Strike. As I mentioned above, Doryani's isn't all that far behind a decent 2h mace, so the extra 25% damage switching from Molten Strike to Heavy Strike could possibly make up for the slightly weaker shift to a 1h + shield.

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Killertortilla wrote:

It's not 200% with AoF because only half the elements get converted. I have explained multiple times why I don't use more than one element.