Are the Devs still making the game they want to play?
" That's an enormous exaggeration being picked out of a minor reality. Yes, they have to pay the bills. No, they don't have to bend over backwards to do so. They could make the game P2W at any time and very likely make a small fortune in a very short amount of time. The game would most certainly die out much faster, but it wouldn't matter if the founders were walking away with seven-figures (in the context of them being strictly a business). I'd like to think that'll never happen though. IGN: Smegmazoid
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"it is now COMPLETELY MISSING from the game"
Lol dude. It's still there. You're free to make your own group, or find your own "hardcore" friends and play ninja mode. IF 99% of people don't want to play that way, but it's still in the game... Your complaint is that people don't want to play that way, not that it's been removed. VI |
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" He doesnt want to steal from his friends if he has any, he wants to steal from random people he doesnt know. With a well working group FFA or short allocation can work very well. I leave all items in short allocation for the person it was allocated for and i did that before we had the 3 allocation system. FFA is best used in races and of course with trusted people you can count on that they give you an item that they know will be an upgrade for you and vice versa. Basically: Strangers -> PA, Friends/guild buddies -> SA, Races/friends/guild birds -> FFA |
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FFA is one of those features that are "cool" on paper, and that people think would be fun if they were the ones grabbing items, but in practice they will miss out on them because someone else will always be faster, more ruthless or more anti-social.
It's like Cutthroat. People also think that is "cool", but after the first month very few will participate, because most people will not cut it. Everyone wants to be a wolf, and no one wants to be the sheep. | |
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" what u write makes no sense. “Human decency is not derived from religion. It precedes it.”
― Christopher Hitchens My QoL List: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3279646 |
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This is why there's absolutely no chance at all I'll ever play one of these games multi-player. It's not the loot options. It's the whining about them.
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Disclaimer: I can speak only for myself, not other devs.
"It's not completely missing from the game. Whenever I play PoE (I haven't found the time for a little bit, but intend to start up our usual weekly group again soon if I can), we have SA on. I don't think I've ever played with PA. Loot tension is not "COMPLETELY MISSING" - you've (perhaps) shown that it's at least mostly absent from public parties, but those aren't "the game", and if we were to limit the game to only what I, as a dev, want to play, public parties would be just as gone as permanent item allocation - I have no interest in either. My ability to play the game I want to play is completely unaffected by other people having the option to play with permanent allocation in exactly the same was as it's unaffected by other people having the ability to play in public parties if that's what they want (weirdos :P) Now you may well be right that there's an issue with people who want to play in public parties, with short allocation so they can enjoy loot tension, being unable to find accommodating parties. I suspect you are, and while I don't have any solutions to offer right now, I do hope that can change. But presenting your argument by claiming that SA isn't in the game, and the game isn't what we want to play any more, is wrong. And at least in this dev's case, talking about "how the dev's want to play" has no relevance to public parties, since they have no overlap. | |
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FFA loot is missing.
I love FFA loot it's is my prefered way of playing . i ALWAYS make my pub games FFA , and i play alone all the time. Sometimes people join my room do 1 run with me bitch about me stealing " thare" stuff then they call me a name and leave , it hurts my fellings. I really miss FFA , the option of perma loot destroyed it , it may as well be removed from the game :( Edit : @ mark It may as well not be in the game . I can't get my friends to play FFA , i can't have a pub game FFA , and i can't join in others games and play FFA. I.E. FFA dose not exsist in PoE end of sentence :( it's sad Edit #2 : It's really sad to because FFA loot makes poe WAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! more fun to play. positioning your character for loot drops , always being very carfull in how u aproch combat vs how much risk u chose to take for loot is very interesting. POE is at it's best in a FFA loot situation . Perma loot servers a porpous i understand how and why people may want it, i feel that people are incorect in this and have simply become lazy dew to MMO style of loot however this is not a MMO so... yha FFA is king in ANY ARPG. Just a sec let me grab a beer...@#*@ Ok how did I die this time Learn the rules, it's the only way to exploit them. Last edited by SirSid#5235 on May 8, 2014, 11:18:24 PM
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Always hated FFa
Even if I am the only melee and was able to ninja what I wanted at my own leisure, I would feel guilty doing so. On the other hand if something good drops and they get it first its like I was punched in the stomach. Me and most people just don't find that fun and I literally see no benifet in this system. Sure if you don't personally see much value the items (hence why the devs all share their opinion.... they just play for fun, good drops mean less to them), then I could see you just laughing if you lose an eternal orb. But to most people things like that are serious fuckin business and could literally stop playing over it. Last edited by Splift#4377 on May 8, 2014, 11:18:46 PM
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" So you'd rather force people? If there are no FFA games, it is because an overwhelming majority of people do not enjoy it, do not want it, and have no interest in playing with that option. Permanent Allocation didn't "kill" anything. It liberated players from an enforced playstyle that they did not enjoy or want. |




































