GGG, I have an intellectual question for you.

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Deceptionist wrote:

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CharanJaydemyr wrote:

The fact that you had to bump this with more of the same should indicate to you that no one's quite as interested in it as you are. Which is fine for private ruminations but for a public forum for a specific subject, being 'interesting' and 'engaging' and most importantly 'relevant' are probably good things to strive for.

You should have taken the hint at Rhys' response, because 'it sounds cool' is about as good as this thread is going to get.

But Charan, when we say we love each other - we don't love each other - we love our perception of each other.

We don't hate them - we just hate our perception of them.

We don't exile them - that's impossible! We just exile our perception of them, of course.

remember, a person is both; an idea and a thing

if you can't stop someone from commanding their body to do something

you can't exile them

if you can put your hand to their mouth to shut them up

then what are you exiling? because the mouth isn't the person!

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mfw reading every post you make

Being exiled or not is not a philosophical question, it is a question of law and/or persecution.

You're applying the wrong tool to the wrong job.

"If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail."

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Upandatem wrote:

Being exiled or not is not a philosophical question, it is a question of law and/or persecution.

You're applying the wrong tool to the wrong job.

"If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail."

It is philosophical, because... if there is no "person" that is legitimately at arms length - and all is a perception thereof, then you can not logically or ontologically remove someone's will, thus you can not exile them - just your perception of them.

So if one can not claim land - can not claim will - can not claim space - where is the exile, where is the exiling, what is an exile?

I literally have no idea why is this a intellectual question because even philosophers agree that the literal definition of exile is that the authority of your homeland kicking you out and there's nothing else to think about it.

There is no literal intellectual debate or argument, that is why after thousands upon thousands of years since the concept of exiling someone nobody questions if it had any deeper meaning.

They didn't just point the finger at the said person and said they were exile, they literally physically captured them, and said they will die unless we put you on a boat and ship you somewhere else that isn't here. You are exiled from this place and cannot come back to it, otherwise there will be repercussions for doing so.

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RagnarokChu wrote:

I literally have no idea why is this a intellectual question because even philosophers agree that the literal definition of exile is that the authority of your homeland kicking you out and there's nothing else to think about it.

There is no literal intellectual debate or argument, that is why after thousands upon thousands of years since the concept of exiling someone nobody questions if it had any deeper meaning.

They did just point the finger at the said person and said they were exile, they literally physically captured them, and said they will die unless we put you on a boat and ship you somewhere else that isn't here. You are exiled from this place and cannot come back to it, otherwise there will be repercussions for doing so.

How can someone kick "you" out. Your body is not "you".

Your "will" is not your body.

Your FREEDOM is your LIFE.

Your LIFE is not YOU.

YOU are a PERSONALITY.

PERSONALITY - IS - LIFE.

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Deceptionist wrote:

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RagnarokChu wrote:

I literally have no idea why is this a intellectual question because even philosophers agree that the literal definition of exile is that the authority of your homeland kicking you out and there's nothing else to think about it.

There is no literal intellectual debate or argument, that is why after thousands upon thousands of years since the concept of exiling someone nobody questions if it had any deeper meaning.

They did just point the finger at the said person and said they were exile, they literally physically captured them, and said they will die unless we put you on a boat and ship you somewhere else that isn't here. You are exiled from this place and cannot come back to it, otherwise there will be repercussions for doing so.

How can someone kick "you" out. Your body is not "you".

Your "will" is not your body.

Your FREEDOM is your LIFE.

Your LIFE is not YOU.

YOU are a PERSONALITY.

PERSONALITY - IS - LIFE.

what the actual fuck

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Deceptionist wrote:

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RagnarokChu wrote:

I literally have no idea why is this a intellectual question because even philosophers agree that the literal definition of exile is that the authority of your homeland kicking you out and there's nothing else to think about it.

There is no literal intellectual debate or argument, that is why after thousands upon thousands of years since the concept of exiling someone nobody questions if it had any deeper meaning.

They did just point the finger at the said person and said they were exile, they literally physically captured them, and said they will die unless we put you on a boat and ship you somewhere else that isn't here. You are exiled from this place and cannot come back to it, otherwise there will be repercussions for doing so.

How can someone kick "you" out. Your body is not "you".

Your "will" is not your body.

Your FREEDOM is your LIFE.

Your LIFE is not YOU.

YOU are a PERSONALITY.

PERSONALITY - IS - LIFE.

If you are not physically in your homeland and someone forced you out and said you cannot come back then you are "exiled". They didn't exile your "will", they physically removed you from a location and told you cannot go back to it.

Yeah you have your life and your freedom, they just kicked you out of your homeland. I have no idea what personality or having life suppose to do with it because they choose not you kill you and kick you out.

It's not a reality, existence, knowledge, values, reason, mind, and language "problem" of being exile. You literally were kicked out of your country by force and cannot come back to it, it doesn't violate any of above.

This is like saying how did you chop off my arm, your body isn't "you".

Are you really trying to question "Reality" and it's "perception" in a public GAMES forum?

people go crazy so easily nowadays *shakinghead*



Home is where the hearth is (no misspell)

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RagnarokChu wrote:

If you are not physically in your homeland and someone forced you out and said you cannot come back then you are "exiled". They didn't exile your "will", they physically removed you from a location and told you cannot go back to it.

Yeah you have your life and your freedom, they just kicked you out of your homeland. I have no idea what personality or having life suppose to do with it because they choose not you kill you and kick you out.

Because it's not the exiler that's doing the exiling - it's just a person using physics and mass to control someone's will.

this goes back to covering someone's mouth with your hand

again

the mouth is not the person - no matter if your intentions are to "shut them up" - you're just shutting out the noise of air passing through their mouth likewise you're just somehow magically removing someone from your town with force - that just makes exilers ontologically illiterate!

the physical body isn't the person - so again who is the exile, who is exiling, what is an exile?

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Deceptionist wrote:

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RagnarokChu wrote:

If you are not physically in your homeland and someone forced you out and said you cannot come back then you are "exiled". They didn't exile your "will", they physically removed you from a location and told you cannot go back to it.

Yeah you have your life and your freedom, they just kicked you out of your homeland. I have no idea what personality or having life suppose to do with it because they choose not you kill you and kick you out.

Because it's not the exiler that's doing the exiling - it's just a person using physics and mass to control someone's will.

this goes back to covering someone's mouth with your hand

again

the mouth is not the person - no matter if your intentions are to "shut them up" - you're just shutting out the noise of air passing through their mouth likewise you're just somehow magically removing someone from your town with force - that just makes exilers ontologically illiterate!

the physical body isn't the person - so again who is the exile, who is exiling, what is an exile?

The literal definition of exile is a person using physicals and mass to kick you out of the country. What is what exiling is, an exile is someone who is kicked out of their country by force. There is no debate on what exiling is because it's pretty straight forward on what's doing and what's being done to you.

If you cover the mouth of someone and making them unable to "speak" which is what they mean by "shutting them up". Then you would need the air to speak, therefore you succeeding in "shutting them up". Unless said person can speak in other ways.

Also it doesn't matter what if you are going to say "my body isn't me". You recognize that I kicked your butt out of the country and I know that I did. I physically removed you from the country, that is what all exiling is.

Ontological debates only work for debates of an state of existence, being "exiled" isn't an state of existence. It's something that is done to you.

It's like saying if I pushed you down to the ground I didn't "push you" because your body isn't you or I didn't push you because my body isn't me. Pushing in that sense a physical thing that I myself did with my physical body that you referring to your physical body that received the physical action.