GGG please make these two keys

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unsane wrote:

I've basically created this list already, see the first link above.

dude's macro list

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/736922/page/1#p6942903

thank you good sir, i will

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Crusader_7 wrote:

i don't see what yer problem is sir.

no probleme here, i'm perfectly amused

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Crusader_7 wrote:

He's simply saying GGG allows people to instant exit...

and i'm saying, they do so, because they can't fix desync

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Crusader_7 wrote:

it isn't "cheating the rules"...

personal opinion

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Crusader_7 wrote:

they'd take that into account when designing the "hardness" of play.

and here we go again: conspiracy ;)



but dont get me wrong, i'm completly fine with exiting, macroing, cheating, botting and what so ever :)

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deusapollo wrote:

and i'm saying, they do so, because they can't fix desync

You are misinformed.

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deusapollo wrote:

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Crusader_7 wrote:

it isn't "cheating the rules"...

personal opinion

It's Chris Wilson's personal opinion as well.

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deusapollo wrote:

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Crusader_7 wrote:

they'd take that into account when designing the "hardness" of play.

and here we go again: conspiracy ;)

Spoiler

or is there any proof that GGG ever said: "let's make the game harder, they got an exitbutton"

There is indeed proof, from several quotes by Chris. That's what all my posts in this thread are sourcing from.

Here's one of them:

Q: What are your thoughts on the use of alt-f4 in the game to escape death?

A: It's currently an accepted playstyle that allows us to design bosses to be more interesting. If you're locked in to *absolutely having to kill it with no hope of escape* then it has to be an easier fight.

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deusapollo wrote:

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unsane wrote:

You don't get it. If GGG had designed the game with "no instant exiting" in mind, they would have made the game far easier, to compensate.

that is the strangest conspiracy theory i've read so far XD

so u're saying GGG designed the game in such a way that we are meant to cheat the rules they gave us in the first place...

Spoiler

that's unsane :D

That's funny, I thought conspiracy theories were when someone thinks something that's never been said.

There is a giant post from Chris somewhere about this exact topic, and it states exactly that. The very short version of it is this: "we don't like instant logout, but if the choice is allow it and let people log out and make the game harder, or do not allow it and never allow a situation where someone can die from a combination of things quickly (making the game easier,) then we pick to allow instant log-out.

They are picking the lesser of two evils. Otherwise you'd be saying goodbye to strong armor negating attacks, and mechanics like shock stacks and multiple source debuffs from stacking with other mods/debuffs, and the game would lose a lot of depth.

Which ever way you feel about it though, you should really find out if something is fact or not after 2 people said the same thing back to back in a thread before going off on someone.

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Dellusions wrote:

before going off on someone.

i was going off on someone? not quite, i only stated that i was amused by a strange theory, but hey, who cares about details.

if that's actually true and there is a post where chris said, they're making the game harder because we got insta-lockout, just link it and i will change my mind from:

great entertaining theory

to

and the award for worst programming idea 2014 goes to chris wilson (maybe it's about the name wilson...) <--- conspiracy

anyway i really like this theory because it's so mindblowingly senseless, that it's awesome again. thx for sharing :)

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deusapollo wrote:

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Dellusions wrote:

before going off on someone.

i was going off on someone? not quite, i only stated that i was amused by a strange theory, but hey, who cares about details.

if that's actually true and there is a post where chris said, they're making the game harder because we got insta-lockout, just link it and i will change my mind from:

great entertaining theory

to

and the award for worst programming idea 2014 goes to chris wilson (maybe it's about the name wilson...) <--- conspiracy

anyway i really like this theory because it's so mindblowingly senseless, that it's awesome again. thx for sharing :)

no offense but maybe you should look up the word 'conspiracy' before you try to use it in a sentence again.

and these posters already 100% proved their points already. Part of being a real man is admitting when yer wrong. Try it sometime. After you look up 'conspiracy' in a dictionary that is.

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Crusader_7 wrote:

no offense but maybe you should look up the word 'conspiracy' before you try to use it in a sentence again.

and these posters already 100% proved their points already. Part of being a real man is admitting when yer wrong. Try it sometime. After you look up 'conspiracy' in a dictionary that is.

no worries, actually u're not capable of offending me ;)

and neither of getting my point, it seems. what i said the whole time is that i personally find this "harder game beause of lockout"-idea in a funny way stupid, regardless of wether it originates from Chris or some player.

this is my personal perception of this matter, which means technically, i can't be wrong saying what i said and tbh i don't know why u people are raging about it.

But still thx for telling me, how to be a real man - like u. ^^

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deusapollo wrote:

this is my personal perception of this matter, which means technically, i can't be wrong saying what i said and tbh i don't know why u people are raging about it.

except that the dictionary definition of the word 'conspiracy' isn't about yer own personal perception of the word. You are either right how you use it, or wrong, and yes that means you were 100% wrong. Whether or not you have the honor to just admit it.

you're also wrong not just admitting that dude quoted GGG and completely shot down what you were saying.

Seriously, you remind me of a debate school kid arguing anything to sound right.

You know why few people like lawyers? Yeah, you guessed it.

that was a smart answer, i apprechiat that. :)

mixing 2 statements of mine to create the illusion that they had a different meaning is actually a nice turn of events.

but to be fair, let's look at what i really wrote:

post 1 had 2 statements
1) it's a strange idea
2) it's a conspiracy theory

then u wrote, i answered basically repeating post 1 and after that the other guy told me, it was chris who said this

and i answered in post 3 with the next 2 statements:
1) if that's true (what i simply dont know), it's a bad concept by chris
2) it's still an amusingly senseless idea

i actually never denied what the other guy said, instead i even considered that it might be true ;).

and in the end, my main statement over the whole time was just, that this "harder game beause of lockout"-idea for me is in a funny way stupid, no more, no less.

btw, i'll take this debate school kid / lawyer thing as a weird compliment ^^ and would like to return that by saying arguing with u was more fun, than i expected.

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Yeran_GGG wrote:

Hey there,

Technically the actions needed to return to character screen would fall under the 'multiple actions' clause. however we're checking to see if Chris has made an exception for this scenario, and we will try and get clarification for you guys.

Because desynch exists it should just be allowed. It's the same as Alt + F4 but instead of wasting a few seconds of our lives re-opening PoE we can start back quickly