If a game is dominated by NON-OFFICIAL RMT, is it any less pay2win?

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Krayken wrote:

You are blind if you think that RMT doesn't affect you. No one wants the gear you find because theres better gear out there, better gear crafted using RMT.

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Krayken wrote:

They need to scare RMT users away. Make a shame list of all the peoples who were banned being or using a RMT service.

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Dan_GGG wrote:

We would have to be comfortable sending our valued players through virus-ridden third party sites that we have no control or oversight over, nor any way to prevent them from stealing your personal information, in order to ultimately allow them to undermine the game for legitimate players.

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Dan_GGG wrote:

So rather than organizing an elaborate conspiracy we could just ban them whenever and wherever we can because not only is it less risky, but the game, and therefore everyone who contributed their time, effort and money to it (especially you guys) benefit from us doing so.

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Dan_GGG wrote:

Firstly, please keep the thread civil, there's no need to antagonize other posters for contributing to it.

With that out of the way, colluding with RMT sites would ultimately be a very flawed and inefficient way to make the game pay to win, which is something we've never wanted to do anyway.

We would have to be comfortable sending our valued players through virus-ridden third party sites that we have no control or oversight over, nor any way to prevent them from stealing your personal information, in order to ultimately allow them to undermine the game for legitimate players. Aside from being probably 10 kinds of illegal across several countries, there really aren't any gameplay or financial reasons remotely good enough to make us consider doing it, even if any of us considered it ethically appropriate.

So rather than organizing an elaborate conspiracy we could just ban them whenever and wherever we can because not only is it less risky, but the game, and therefore everyone who contributed their time, effort and money to it (especially you guys) benefit from us doing so.

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Krayken wrote:

You are blind if you think that RMT doesn't affect you. No one wants the gear you find because theres better gear out there, better gear crafted using RMT.

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nGio wrote:

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Dan_GGG wrote:

Firstly, please keep the thread civil, there's no need to antagonize other posters for contributing to it.

With that out of the way, colluding with RMT sites would ultimately be a very flawed and inefficient way to make the game pay to win, which is something we've never wanted to do anyway.

We would have to be comfortable sending our valued players through virus-ridden third party sites that we have no control or oversight over, nor any way to prevent them from stealing your personal information, in order to ultimately allow them to undermine the game for legitimate players. Aside from being probably 10 kinds of illegal across several countries, there really aren't any gameplay or financial reasons remotely good enough to make us consider doing it, even if any of us considered it ethically appropriate.

So rather than organizing an elaborate conspiracy we could just ban them whenever and wherever we can because not only is it less risky, but the game, and therefore everyone who contributed their time, effort and money to it (especially you guys) benefit from us doing so.

Or you could just be realistic. With this current system, it would take somewhere around 200 Exalted Orbs in currency to craft an item from scratch(I'm currently at 81 Exalted into my 2H in Nemesis, and it isn't even usable yet). I have 600 hours played on Nemesis and I have found 2 Exalted and 0 Eternal. So if 1 Exalted drops every 300 hours and I need 200 of them to craft 1 item......do you see the problem?

There are 3 types of people that play tradecraft games like PoE.
1. I don't RMT ever.
2. I RMT every game.
3. I don't RMT.....unless I am completely demoralized with bad drop rates and horrible RNG, and RMT becomes worth more than the time wasted farming/crafting.

Address the real problem, drop rates are absolute abysmal shit, and players aren't progressing late game without RMT. Trade chat is comprised of "6L my shit for 'x'" because crafting is a joke. Your top players(that haven't given up on the game yet) are using RMT because drop rates are a joke. You can hide from us the amount of users online at any given point, but anyone who is playing can see an empty friends list and a trade chat that is purely 2 guys spamming something back and fourth.

I could stay at my job and work 2 hours of overtime, which would give me enough money to RMT more than I would find in 500 hours of doing maps. Literally. That's why RMT users per legit players is so overwhelming in this game. I hate RMT, and I love what this game "could be" but you guys need to fix the problem.

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LennyLen wrote:

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Krayken wrote:

You are blind if you think that RMT doesn't affect you. No one wants the gear you find because theres better gear out there, better gear crafted using RMT.

I haven't made a single trade in the 18 months I've been playing this game, so it's very easy to not be affected at all by RMT.

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Temper wrote:

Game was developed for trade/economy .... the drop tables are balanced for trade,RMT effects trade which the drop tables are balanced around ... everyone is effected whether you trade or not.




Anyway whatever,I'm pretty much done with RMT subject and I'll let you all keep your head in the sand as it doesn't effect YOU !