Path of life nodes

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MortalKombat3 wrote:

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deteego wrote:

And other aRPGS also have these mechanics, so overall you are still worse off in PoE. PoE isn't the only game that gives you resistance's to elemental damage

What is your point there??

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deteego wrote:

So my point still stands and its still correct, netwise you are worse off in PoE for having less life in context of status effects

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RagnarokChu wrote:

50 Resistance = 14.29% damage reduced (16.67% EHP increased)
100 Resistance = 25.00% damage reduced (33.33% EHP increased)
200 Resistance = 40.00% damage reduced (66.67% EHP increased)
300 Resistance = 50.00% damage reduced (100% EHP increased)
400 Resistance = 57.14% damage reduced (133.33% EHP increased)
500 Resistance = 62.50% damage reduced (166.67% EHP increased)
600 Resistance = 66.67% damage reduced (200% EHP increased)
700 Resistance = 70.00% damage reduced (233.33% EHP increased)
800 Resistance = 72.72% damage reduced (266.67% EHP increased)
900 Resistance = 75.00% damage reduced (300% EHP increased)
1000 Resistance = 76.92% damage reduced (333.33% EHP increased)
1100 Resistance = 78.57% damage reduced (366.67% EHP increased)
1200 Resistance = 80.00% damage reduced (400% EHP increased)

You know it works exactly the same like PoE? You just need more of it to achieve the same effect.

Just because you may only "need" 200 all resist to beat D3 in mp0 and do to further then that 600 all resist min and then even more as you increase in mp10 is just an more in-depth system then just getting 75 in everything.

Saying you could beat MP3 MP0 is equivalent of saying you can get to act 3 merc in shit gear.

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syrioforel wrote:

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RagnarokChu wrote:

50 Resistance = 14.29% damage reduced (16.67% EHP increased)
100 Resistance = 25.00% damage reduced (33.33% EHP increased)
200 Resistance = 40.00% damage reduced (66.67% EHP increased)
300 Resistance = 50.00% damage reduced (100% EHP increased)
400 Resistance = 57.14% damage reduced (133.33% EHP increased)
500 Resistance = 62.50% damage reduced (166.67% EHP increased)
600 Resistance = 66.67% damage reduced (200% EHP increased)
700 Resistance = 70.00% damage reduced (233.33% EHP increased)
800 Resistance = 72.72% damage reduced (266.67% EHP increased)
900 Resistance = 75.00% damage reduced (300% EHP increased)
1000 Resistance = 76.92% damage reduced (333.33% EHP increased)
1100 Resistance = 78.57% damage reduced (366.67% EHP increased)
1200 Resistance = 80.00% damage reduced (400% EHP increased)

You know it works exactly the same like PoE? You just need more of it to achieve the same effect.

Just because you may only "need" 200 all resist to beat D3 in mp0 and do to further then that 600 all resist min and then even more as you increase in mp10 is just an more in-depth system then just getting 75 in everything.

Saying you could beat MP3 MP0 is equivalent of saying you can get to act 3 merc in shit gear.

See how as you add resistance, you get less and less damage reduction added? See how every point of resistance is less effective than the one before it? It doesn't work that way in PoE.

EDIT: OK, I'm properly done saying this for the nth time now. :P

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syrioforel wrote:

See how as you add resistance, you get less and less damage reduction added? See how every point of resistance is less effective than the one before it? It doesn't work that way in PoE.

EDIT: OK, I'm properly done saying this for the nth time now. :P

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RagnarokChu wrote:

Okay why is it BAD? D2 did the exact same thing as oppose to PoE and is their resistance system considered shit?, your point is fruitless unless your saying D3 is a better system for general progression and item/skill content.

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RagnarokChu wrote:

Okay why is it BAD? D2 did the exact same thing as oppose to PoE and is their resistance system considered shit?, your point is fruitless unless your saying D3 is a better system for general progression and item/skill content.

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deteego wrote:

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syrioforel wrote:

See how as you add resistance, you get less and less damage reduction added? See how every point of resistance is less effective than the one before it? It doesn't work that way in PoE.

EDIT: OK, I'm properly done saying this for the nth time now. :P

Hint, in PoE its the opposite ;)

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RagnarokChu wrote:

Okay why is it BAD? D2 did the exact same thing as oppose to PoE and is their resistance system considered shit?, your point is fruitless unless your saying D3 is a better system for general progression and item/skill content.

Yes it is, because it forces you to cap resistances to just be able to do content without dying every 2 minute. PoE copied D2, just cos, well, D2 had it

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RagnarokChu wrote:

This using this reasoning is completely incorrect, if you guys STILL don't get it. Let me do the math for you.

It cost you 50 ar to get 16.67% EHP increase.

1200 nets you 400% EHP increase

50 ar x 24 = 1200 ar

16.67% x 24 = 400.08% increase

It's the exact same thing, do you not get "less" per all resist you have. D3 just had a better resist curve because in the super nerfed changed state, you can beat mp0 with 200 ar and you can scale it more to do more challenging content.

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syrioforel wrote:

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RagnarokChu wrote:

This using this reasoning is completely incorrect, if you guys STILL don't get it. Let me do the math for you.

It cost you 50 ar to get 16.67% EHP increase.

1200 nets you 400% EHP increase

50 ar x 24 = 1200 ar

16.67% x 24 = 400.08% increase

It's the exact same thing, do you not get "less" per all resist you have. D3 just had a better resist curve because in the super nerfed changed state, you can beat mp0 with 200 ar and you can scale it more to do more challenging content.

You do get less per all resist, compared to what you have already. At 600 ar, you have 200% increased EHP. That's 300% of base EHP. So, by adding 600 ar from 0 ar, you triple your EHP.

At 1200 ar, you have 400% increased EHP. That's 500% of base EHP. When you go from 0 ar to 1200 ar, you have multiplied your EHP by a factor of 5.

When you go from 600 ar to 1200 ar, you have gone from 3xbase EHP to 5xbase EHP. That is a multiplicative increase of 5/3. It is well-known that 5/3 is smaller than 3. Therefore, the addition of an extra 600 ar is more effective starting from 0 ar than it is if you were at 600 ar already (going up to 1200 ar).

That is what is meant by getting "less" per all resist at higher levels.

Now, when you go from 0% fire resist to 25% fire resist in PoE/D2, you are increasing your EHP (against fire) from a base level to 4/3 of that base level. That's because you're taking 3/4 as much damage from fire as you would be at 0% resistance.

If you were to then go from 25% fire resist to 50% fire resist, you would be receiving 1/2 as much damage from fire as you would at 0% resistance. Your EHP against fire damage would therefore be 2x the base level.

(2x base), up from (4/3x base), is a multiplicative increase of (3/2). You can again check that (3/2) is a bigger number than 4/3. Therefore, the addition of the extra 25% fire resistance was more effective starting from 25% resist than it was starting from 0% resist.