Default league price madness

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Morgoth2356 wrote:

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iamstryker wrote:

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Mythicpoe wrote:

My two cents?
They need to delete standard league altogether.

Its a good thing neither of us are devs because IMO 4 month leagues are pointless. Get rid of them and put in a permanent self found league.

This game is designed around ladders resets and 4 months leagues. Even Chris encouraged new players to play Domination League instead of Standard, because it's a good thing to start from scratch with a fresh economy. That's what the devs want their game to be, so no they wont get rid of it, because it's awesome and a lot of players play this game because of it. And can you post something on these forums without speaking about a self found league ? Yawn...

Pretty much everything was summed in this post. The game is designed to be around those 4 leagues, not a perma league.

Almost none of the posts suggested any possible solution, as having MONSTROUS inflation was something usual in any permanent type of gameplay. But there are many stable econimies (look at some mmo's) where prices do not rise endlessly. Why PoE can't have stable economy or what GGG can do to prevent inflation?

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Morgoth2356 wrote:

This game is designed around ladders resets and 4 months leagues.

Which has nothing to do with my own personal opinion. I was not asking the devs to get rid of the four month leagues if thats what you took from it. I was making a point that to me personally those leagues are pointless and I care nothing for them.

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Even Chris encouraged new players to play Domination League instead of Standard, because it's a good thing to start from scratch with a fresh economy.

Thats obvious. I would tell new players the same thing because they are going to start from scratch either way and after four months they will move to standard. No harm done.

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And can you post something on these forums without speaking about a self found league ? Yawn...

I threw it in there because its something I would care to see. It makes more sense for me to post about something I want then for you to consistently bash the idea of a SFL which doesn't effect you at all.

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zamraii wrote:

ut there are many stable econimies (look at some mmo's) where prices do not rise endlessly. Why PoE can't have stable economy or what GGG can do to prevent inflation?

Could you name a few of those many MMOs with stable economies and no inflation (mudflation, really)? Of the MMOs I played, I have never experienced that, but I haven't played every single one. The closest was perhaps Ultima Online, which had wear-and-tear of gear (needed to be repaired and eventually broke when it had been repaired often enough), consumable materials for spell casting and ranged fighting, upkeep costs for player-owned vendors, etc, and it still suffered from inflation.

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zamraii wrote:

But there are many stable econimies (look at some mmo's) where prices do not rise endlessly.

Yes, because those mmo's took the easy way by making everything worthwile bind to account, and that kind of BS don't belong here as Chris already mentionned it.

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Morgoth2356 wrote:

Yes, because those mmo's took the easy way by making everything worthwile bind to account, and that kind of BS don't belong here as Chris already mentionned it.

Besides, WoW does suffer from massive inflation. During vanilla WoW, a stack of light leather (crafting material) sold among player for maybe 20-40 silver. A few years later, the same stack of light leather cost 10-20 gold (or 1000-2000 silver). BoE world drops similarly increased in price, and prices of BoE pets exploded in even greater inflationary fireworks.

Whatever leagues, just play your game.

Standard: Cheap. It's great for those that want end-game gears AND don't want to spend hell lot of times. Satisfied with that, they may leave PoE or join other leagues whenever they want.
Hardcore: More challenge indeed with less community compared to other leagues.
4 months League: New community, Start from the scratch. Challenging but some ppl may not like the length, some may think they should just join Standard or Hardcore in the first place.

Or whatever reasons.

Honestly I think it's just dumb ppl from Sc saying "Alt+F4 League" or Hc saying "Crap/Easy/Useless League". No offense. Every leagues have their good sides. Having fun of it is just enough, ffs just don't mess with other ppl.

If I could punch Xahanort in the teeth, I would.

Hands off my chars and the only Permanent league in this game! I haven't spent lots of time and effort into them just to lose them all because some [expletives removed] think Standard leauge is crap and keep foul-mouthing it.

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Rozerozz wrote:

Standard: Cheap. It's great for those that want end-game gears AND don't want to spend hell lot of times. Satisfied with that, they may leave PoE or join other leagues whenever they want.

I think we are playing two different games. Standard is full of worthless uniques and cheap rares but really end-game gear is out of reach unless you are already swimming in a pool full of exalts (getting reach during closed beta, flipping items). With mid-end items going dirty cheap there is no way to make money for end-game gear by playing the game unless you loot some godly 30+ ex unique. It's like a poor man's roulette unless you get lucky...someday...or starve to death trying.

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TheVikingStory wrote:

Be a man and play hardcore.

Be a man and play self-found. I play Standard, don't care about prices, trading sim for for not-hardcore enough.