Barrage - TERRIBLE! Or am I missing something?

Now, after testing it somewhat I must concur with esteemed colleague Lightningwarp. It could perhaps be useful as a trigger skill, and on single targets only.

Someone messed this up real bad, my educated guesswork spawned two equally likely theories:
1. Somebody really screwed up and made it '40% of base damage' instead of '40% less damage'.
2. It is working as intended but it was tested with a 155mm howitzer so no difference between it and other ranged skills could be noticed.

If we must talk about the most intimate feelings considering this skill then I must point out that the most overwhelming of feelings I had after the whole ordeal was the feeling of sadness. Yes, I was sad we couldn't put supports on normal attack, it would have given me same or better damage output with no mana cost whatsoever.
Wish the armchair developers would go back to developing armchairs.

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Zealflare wrote:
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Natharias wrote:
Well, I'm not confused. You said it was a weak stand-alone skill, which it is not meant to be used as. I said that it is simply a build enabler, much like Facebreaker, Soul Mantle, and Shavronne's Wrappings.

The fact that it has multiple projectiles and has the capability of either hitting a single target or a packed mob, depending on the range. If the attack crits, each one of those projectiles crit. Combine Barrage, Quillrain, ~600% chance to crit, and you'll cast spells rapidly.

I don't think GGG is going to tell everyone the best combinations of each skill gem, so why are you asking me to find GGG saying such things?


And you know this, because...?

We were clearly shown, on the 1.0.3 video, that Barrage was a new skill, focused heavily on multi-hit single target with minor potential for a narrow cone aoe. Several of us tried it out like we would use skills like Frenzy and Power Siphon (AKA as a single target ability), and were disappointed BUT noting its potential as a CoC skill. Then you come along with that "it was not meant to be a standalone skill" like its some kind of fact that we should accept. Did you develop the skill? Was there a statement from the Barrage GGG dev on its "intended purpose"? No.

Kindly explain why a "CoC build enabling gem" gets "increased physical damage" on lvl up instead of "increased spell damage" then? Are you now going the extra mile and say "Barrage was meant to be a CoC Ethereal Knifes build enabling skill, since the increase physical damage benefits EK too!"?

Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds? Just because your "ideal" of the Barrage skill is as such, does not make the complains of the people who actually tried out the skill and got disappointed any less valid. It has potential as a CoC ability, is a bad stand alone single target like Frenzy/Siphon. Period.

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valarhexile wrote:
Has anyone tested Point Blank with it already ?
(as a single, close range skill)

Was expecting to use it in my RoA build to roll over rares/uniques mobs :p

lvl 76 Point Blank physical bow ranger here, with the same amount of links I can get way more efficient killing speed with RoA/frenzy than with Barrage. I would even argue that RoA flat out beats Frenzy unless you get more than 3 charges.


I know that because that's the first thing that came into mind. It's also working better than any other skill for my Cast on Crit build. It doesn't compare to the DPS of any other skill I use for my archer. Therefor, it's intended purpose must be with use of Cast on Crit.

Is that simple enough for you? Or do I need to make it even simpler and more obvious?

No, GGG hasn't and may never tell anyone what something is meant for. Why should they? Letting the players find out everything makes the game last longer. Telling them every possible use for something kills the longevity of the game.

A "CoC build enabling gem" is anything that has a property that makes it worthwhile. The bonus physical damage it gives is not part of the point. Why bring it up? I pointed out Barrage on it's own, not every specific stat it may have.

I can't help but wonder if you're either just trying to argue or if you are really thick.
Here you can find video sample how efficient dual wand Barrage with CoC can be :)
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/712837
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LeMing wrote:
Here you can find video sample how efficient dual wand Barrage with CoC can be :)
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/712837


Exactly, as many here said, the skill has any value only as a trigger skill for CoC. For damage dealing pretty much any other ranged skill trumps it.
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