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By that logic League of legends are also a pay 2 win game just because i could pay my opponent to lose on purpose.
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Posted byFaddei#3913on Nov 24, 2013, 1:27:56 PM
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First Video of Athene i watched which is informative and he is right.
He states that POE isnt intended or designed to be P2W, but the grindfest it can become makes it "You CAN, but arent forced to, P2W" through RMT. You realy should watch that Vid and try to get his core statement, which I find to be true.
QFT. Finally, someone who looks at information and doesn't dismiss it just because they don't like / want to know the information.
That RMT sites a problem are and that you technically purchase item with real money is not a fucking revelation. Any game ever where is trading and time in whatever quantity involved has the risk of attracting RMT business. This is especially true for aRPG games.
Saying that PoE is pay to win is still a wrong statement no matter how many 3rd party RMT sites there are.
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Posted bySneakypaw#3052on Nov 24, 2013, 1:30:38 PM
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Everyone who just calls this a troll, doesnt see the problem. Good Items never leave the economy. In MMOs or RoS this problem is handled with making Items be Bound to Account or Characters on certain Actions.
Wrong, good items leave the economy all the time as long as you're not playing baby mode.
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battled wrote:
I'm sure the guy with 3k exalts won only cause of the premium stash tabs ^_^
He didn't win anything, he has a bunch of currency in the trashcan league. Big deal.
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Posted byskinnay#1438on Nov 24, 2013, 1:31:31 PM
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Kamro wrote:
Everyone who just calls this a troll, doesnt see the problem. Good Items never leave the economy. In MMOs or RoS this problem is handled with making Items be Bound to Account or Characters on certain Actions.
Wrong, good items leave the economy all the time as long as you're not playing baby mode.
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battled wrote:
I'm sure the guy with 3k exalts won only cause of the premium stash tabs ^_^
He didn't win anything, he has a bunch of currency in the trashcan league. Big deal.
Ya i bet there never was any RMT in Hardcore League.
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Posted byKamro#5285on Nov 24, 2013, 1:33:24 PM
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This only applies to standard sadly,as even if botters and RMTers farm like crazy no one is spending millions in a 4 month league that will soon be merged.
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Posted bydeshaboo#4474on Nov 24, 2013, 1:33:27 PM
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By that logic League of legends are also a pay 2 win game just because i could pay my opponent to lose on purpose.
Do you play LOL? Because what you described is not possible in a grand, gameinfluenting scale.
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1158669
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Posted byVincendra#0721on Nov 24, 2013, 1:34:14 PM
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By the logic on this thread, Diablo 2 is P2W.
In fact so is Mass Effect on the xbox and so are many games that were never intended to be, because you can pay a premium account online to get all the cool game saves for your xbox profile. (ok, I admit, there are many free ones too)
Its pay to win, so long as you include things completely out of the devs control.
Its pay to win if you cheat!
Life has suddenly become... P2W!!!
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Posted byAnaLoGMunKy#2668on Nov 24, 2013, 1:34:27 PM
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skinnay wrote:
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Kamro wrote:
Everyone who just calls this a troll, doesnt see the problem. Good Items never leave the economy. In MMOs or RoS this problem is handled with making Items be Bound to Account or Characters on certain Actions.
Wrong, good items leave the economy all the time as long as you're not playing baby mode.
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battled wrote:
I'm sure the guy with 3k exalts won only cause of the premium stash tabs ^_^
He didn't win anything, he has a bunch of currency in the trashcan league. Big deal.
I would even go as far as to say he is sitting on dead weight. It's too much to trade it all and if he is not using it to craft, then Those exalteds have no meaning at all.
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Posted bySneakypaw#3052on Nov 24, 2013, 1:34:52 PM
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AnaLoGMunKy wrote:
By the logic on this thread, Diablo 2 is P2W.
In fact so is Mass Effect on the xbox and so are many games that were never intended to be, because you can pay a premium account online to get all the cool game saves for your xbox profile. (ok, I admit, there are many free ones too)
Its pay to win, so long as you include things completely out of the devs control.
Its pay to win if you cheat!
Life has suddenly become... P2W!!!
There are mechanics to battle these Symtomps as i explained in one of my previous posts, but these Mechancis would make the game what it is billed as a hardcore aRPG and lets be honest most people here like to have shortcuts with Trading. And as long as Trading is the soo ultra effective to reach Endgame and deck out your char RMT sites will rise.
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Posted byKamro#5285on Nov 24, 2013, 1:36:55 PM
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Kamro wrote:
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skinnay wrote:
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Kamro wrote:
Everyone who just calls this a troll, doesnt see the problem. Good Items never leave the economy. In MMOs or RoS this problem is handled with making Items be Bound to Account or Characters on certain Actions.
Wrong, good items leave the economy all the time as long as you're not playing baby mode.
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battled wrote:
I'm sure the guy with 3k exalts won only cause of the premium stash tabs ^_^
He didn't win anything, he has a bunch of currency in the trashcan league. Big deal.
Ya i bet there never was any RMT in Hardcore League.
FAR FAR less because of the risk of dying. And then the RMT'd gear eventually goes down the drain when they die.
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