Is multiboxing alowed?

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Omnivore61 wrote:

Ok said I was going to bow out but have to make one last comment. We're following a straw man argument here. It is not what 6 human players can do compared to 1 multiboxer that counts, it is what 1 human player can do compared to 1 multiboxer. Keep that clearly in mind.

And with this as a last last comment, I'm gone - logging in to play for awhile.

You know nothing about multiboxing and you arguments are wrong and hilarious. Calling us script kiddies, botters just because you got no clue what multiboxing is. Claiming we destroy the economy is the most absurd thing I ever read.

Multiboxers dont do multiboxing to cheat or get more loot we do it because its a challenge if we can play multiple characters at the same time and finish the game. Depending on how many characters you got you will need to make builds for them skills and gear for them all. You get it now?

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SL4Y3R wrote:

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wrathmar wrote:

except you only get to clear 1/6th of an instance while in a live group. When multi boxing/loading you get a full clear.

Irrelevant. You're clearing faster.

For the record, when I say farm, I'm referring to the wide open spaces of fellshrine. In which case, the statement "farm the road", is what one does when playing solo.

So, they're not getting a full clear either. If each person takes distance from each other, and you move forward, you effectively clear the full zone, in a type of pseudo /players x scenario. Except in this case, you're actually playing with other players.

Who knows what A3 will bring though. Only a couple weeks left til we all find out.

Very relevant.

While working in a Live group you have to plan out your movement and reset the instance 6 times to get the same amount of loot as boxing/loading. I have farmed Fellshrine with a group and solo. While in a farm group you spend more time running and resting than while solo.

The group difficulty is due to be balanced and if GGG buffs the difficulty to where it should be boxing/loading will stop being an issue.

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Burmeister99 wrote:

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Omnivore61 wrote:

Ok said I was going to bow out but have to make one last comment. We're following a straw man argument here. It is not what 6 human players can do compared to 1 multiboxer that counts, it is what 1 human player can do compared to 1 multiboxer. Keep that clearly in mind.

And with this as a last last comment, I'm gone - logging in to play for awhile.

You know nothing about multiboxing and you arguments are wrong and hilarious. Calling us script kiddies, botters just because you got no clue what multiboxing is. Claiming we destroy the economy is the most absurd thing I ever read.

Multiboxers dont do multiboxing to cheat or get more loot we do it because its a challenge if we can play multiple characters at the same time and finish the game. Depending on how many characters you got you will need to make builds for them skills and gear for them all. You get it now?

i hope the 99 in your name doest represent your birthyear

it may be the case that you try to just fight a challenge i dont deny that but there are tons of players who will do this just to get the advantage and to refuse to accept that 1 guy gets 6 times the loot is ignorant

there will be a point in the game when the multiboxer can brainafk farm the area with a full party at anytime of the day and that is plain wrong

and the sister comparision lacks logic why should you achieve the same gearlvl like someone else in 1/6 of the time ? its a cheap and easy way to get an unfair advantage nothing else but

i really like the i want a challenge story really entertaining if 6x orbs isnt so importent to u so why not give multiboxer 1x drop for a party of 6 hey u just looking for the challenge do u ?

something tells me you multiboxed d3 too just for the challenge not for the 4x gold and drops

excuse my terrible english but i think u get the idea

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ventiman wrote:

to refuse to accept that 1 guy gets 6 times the loot is ignorant

Sorry bro, I'm on your side, I view anything that involves automation as cheating (and yes, it's automation even if you have to set it up right to start with), but a party of 6 doesn't get the loot that you would get solo x6, that's not how it's calculated.

And I can promise you, it is a LOT harder to farm efficiently as a multiboxer than solo due to the fact that movement is extremely hard to clone when there is no function to move to coordinates. Most would probably farm slower with 6 than 1.

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ventiman wrote:

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Burmeister99 wrote:

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Omnivore61 wrote:

Ok said I was going to bow out but have to make one last comment. We're following a straw man argument here. It is not what 6 human players can do compared to 1 multiboxer that counts, it is what 1 human player can do compared to 1 multiboxer. Keep that clearly in mind.

And with this as a last last comment, I'm gone - logging in to play for awhile.

You know nothing about multiboxing and you arguments are wrong and hilarious. Calling us script kiddies, botters just because you got no clue what multiboxing is. Claiming we destroy the economy is the most absurd thing I ever read.

Multiboxers dont do multiboxing to cheat or get more loot we do it because its a challenge if we can play multiple characters at the same time and finish the game. Depending on how many characters you got you will need to make builds for them skills and gear for them all. You get it now?

i hope the 99 in your name doest represent your birthyear

it may be the case that you try to just fight a challenge i dont deny that but there are tons of players who will do this just to get the advantage and to refuse to accept that 1 guy gets 6 times the loot is ignorant

there will be a point in the game when the multiboxer can brainafk farm the area with a full party at anytime of the day and that is plain wrong

and the sister comparision lacks logic why should you achieve the same gearlvl like someone else in 1/6 of the time ? its a cheap and easy way to get an unfair advantage nothing else but

i really like the i want a challenge story really entertaining if 6x orbs isnt so importent to u so why not give multiboxer 1x drop for a party of 6 hey u just looking for the challenge do u ?

something tells me you multiboxed d3 too just for the challenge not for the 4x gold and drops

excuse my terrible english but i think u get the idea

I love how you pretend to be on a moral and intelligence high ground. As if hating on multi-boxing makes you "cool". And yet you have no idea what it is, in fact you can't even use proper grammar. So I'm not surprised that you are crying about multi-boxing, the idiots all ways do. My guess is you're just too stupid to play multiple characters at once, or to even begin to understand how to set-up a multi-box, and so you complain about it, cry about how it's cheating because people with superior skills can do it but you can't.

This isn't Jay 3, it's not WoW, or any other similar crap. It's Path of Exile, a HARDCORE game. In this game intelligence and skills are rewarded, and things don't get nerfed because self entitled hipsters don't like it.

I bet you're one of the people that say things like "WoW raids should be easier because I pay for the game and so I am entitled to that content", aren't you. The funny thing is, you can multi-box too, and so it's not exclusive to a few people like you make it out to be.




The fact is, multi-boxing requires far more skill to do than play solo, and it will be LESS EFFICIENT even with 6 times the loot, even though at most people will only be running 2-3 characters, since 6 would be too much to keep track of. So we will get twice the loot but take twice as long to clear content. And then you think it will hurt the economy, there will be far too few people successfully multi-boxing for it to even effect the economy.

You have no argument, just vapid bullshit that you think is relevant.

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nikentic wrote:

And I can promise you, it is a LOT harder to farm efficiently as a multiboxer than solo due to the fact that movement is extremely hard to clone when there is no function to move to coordinates. Most would probably farm slower with 6 than 1.

Doesn't matter how hard it is, if it's using automation it's still against the ToS. Don't understand why that's really hard to comprehend for some people.

EDIT: Since this thread has resorted in name calling and childish comments I'd vote to lock it. The ToS outlines what's clearly accepted and not accepted in terms of multi-boxing. Nothing more is needed.

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Elynole wrote:

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nikentic wrote:

And I can promise you, it is a LOT harder to farm efficiently as a multiboxer than solo due to the fact that movement is extremely hard to clone when there is no function to move to coordinates. Most would probably farm slower with 6 than 1.

Doesn't matter how hard it is, if it's using automation it's still against the ToS. Don't understand why that's really hard to comprehend for some people.

EDIT: Since this thread has resorted in name calling and childish comments I'd vote to lock it. The ToS outlines what's clearly accepted and not accepted in terms of multi-boxing. Nothing more is needed.

Automation would be carrying out any sort of task with no user interaction. COpying keystrokes to multiple windows is not automation and it never has been.

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Burmeister99 wrote:

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Omnivore61 wrote:

Ok said I was going to bow out but have to make one last comment. We're following a straw man argument here. It is not what 6 human players can do compared to 1 multiboxer that counts, it is what 1 human player can do compared to 1 multiboxer. Keep that clearly in mind.

And with this as a last last comment, I'm gone - logging in to play for awhile.

You know nothing about multiboxing and you arguments are wrong and hilarious. Calling us script kiddies, botters just because you got no clue what multiboxing is. Claiming we destroy the economy is the most absurd thing I ever read.

Multiboxers dont do multiboxing to cheat or get more loot we do it because its a challenge if we can play multiple characters at the same time and finish the game. Depending on how many characters you got you will need to make builds for them skills and gear for them all. You get it now?

And you, sir, have zero reading comprehension skills. Nowhere did I call you or any other poster in this thread a script kiddie, nor did I claim it would destroy the economy of any league here in Path of Exiles. I quite understand what you claim, however, I flat out don't believe you, because I know when I multiboxed, I had a nice advantage over any individual player. My housemate was more into it and managed, along with a few others, to completely wreck the pvp balance in one MMO. As I mentioned earlier, check out the history of multiboxing in mmo's and it is a disaster for regular players everywhere it occurs. Oddly enough they all make exactly the same claims you do. Not buying sir. Not at all.


As for the other poster's claim that it is harder to farm efficiently as a multiboxer than solo, you must not be very good at either the game or multiboxing in general, or else perhaps being deliberately misleading. Claiming that it doesn't give you an advantage in the game is just laughable.

Hopefully GGG will continue to toughen the game so that multiboxing cannot gain much of an advantage. Really that is the only way it won't become a problem.

EDIT: I second Elynole's vote for locking, this is going nowhere except downhill.

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Omnivore61 wrote:

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Burmeister99 wrote:

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Omnivore61 wrote:

Ok said I was going to bow out but have to make one last comment. We're following a straw man argument here. It is not what 6 human players can do compared to 1 multiboxer that counts, it is what 1 human player can do compared to 1 multiboxer. Keep that clearly in mind.

And with this as a last last comment, I'm gone - logging in to play for awhile.

You know nothing about multiboxing and you arguments are wrong and hilarious. Calling us script kiddies, botters just because you got no clue what multiboxing is. Claiming we destroy the economy is the most absurd thing I ever read.

Multiboxers dont do multiboxing to cheat or get more loot we do it because its a challenge if we can play multiple characters at the same time and finish the game. Depending on how many characters you got you will need to make builds for them skills and gear for them all. You get it now?

And you, sir, have zero reading comprehension skills. Nowhere did I call you or any other poster in this thread a script kiddie, nor did I claim it would destroy the economy of any league here in Path of Exiles. I quite understand what you claim, however, I flat out don't believe you, because I know when I multiboxed, I had a nice advantage over any individual player. My housemate was more into it and managed, along with a few others, to completely wreck the pvp balance in one MMO. As I mentioned earlier, check out the history of multiboxing in mmo's and it is a disaster for regular players everywhere it occurs. Oddly enough they all make exactly the same claims you do. Not buying sir. Not at all.


As for the other poster's claim that it is harder to farm efficiently as a multiboxer than solo, you must not be very good at either the game or multiboxing in general, or else perhaps being deliberately misleading. Claiming that it doesn't give you an advantage in the game is just laughable.

Hopefully GGG will continue to toughen the game so that multiboxing cannot gain much of an advantage. Really that is the only way it won't become a problem.

Actually, I am really good with a multi-box. But the game is a lot harder that other games I go it with, D3 and WoW.

In PoE hardcore, playing multiple accounts safely will be slower than playing solo, copying keystrokes and mouse movements has never been be very accurate, and so you need to constantly fiddle about with things. 1 mistake and you can can easily die, something that you are going to be very prone to when multi-boxing.