Is multiboxing alowed?

I hope people understand that Multiboxing is not the same as automating anything. It is extremely hard to clone mouse movements and clicks without expensive repeater harware, even with the hardware it will not be a perfect copy of your mouse clicks.

As long as GGG doesn't add a movement function which makes you able to move to a xz coordinate, it will be very hard to do this efficiently.

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Valmar wrote:

If they do, then multibots will come. Soon.

Please, if you can start one bot on your computer, you can start 100 if you have the performance for it. The botting community does not prosper by disallowing or allowing Multiboxing, as they don't have too much in common.

PS:


To GGG: Is it allowed to draw on PoE by hooking DirectX?

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nikentic wrote:

To GGG: Is it allowed to draw on PoE by hooking DirectX?

Isn't that what Steam does?

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MonstaMunch wrote:

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ventiman wrote:

multibox ruins an economy in no time 1 player gets 6 times the amount of orbs in the same time a single player would get

No, they don't, that's not how the increase is calculated. Chris has said before that he doesn't like it, but doesn't see it as cheating, and that he would try to find ways to simply make it not worthwhile. In my opinion, he completely delivered on that with the booster nerf patch. Since then, I haven't seen or heard of anyone managing to get any worthwhile benefit from doing it.

For me multiboxing in POE is not so I can profit with more loot but is more of a challenge I plan to multibox 4 toons when open beta comes and I have been testing it none stop since yesteday and holy shit this is going to be hard

I'm still not sure if its viable at all but ill try.

Properly the hardest game I tried to multibox in and in HC just make it even more fun. Its an enormous task there is standing in front of me but ill try to do. Yesteday I was only dual boxing and I died all the time in HC

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Burmeister99 wrote:

For me multiboxing in POE is not so I can profit with more loot but is more of a challenge I plan to multibox 4 toons when oben beta comes and I have been testing it none stop since yesteday and holy shit this is going to be hard

I'm still not sure if its viable at all but ill try.

Properly the hardest game I tried to multibox in and in HC just make it even more fun. Its an enormous task there is standing in front of me but ill try to do. Yesteday I was only dual boxing and I died all the time in HC

There's really only one question you have to ask yourself to find if it's within terms of the game or not. Are you using 3rd party software/hardware to do it? If not, then you're golden!

Automation, automation is not allowed - whether it be scripts or repeaters. Because this would be working your way around content, just like exploiting or any other sort of advantage. If you manually carry around X number of other characters without using this then you're still doing the work for X number of characters and therefore you've earned it.

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Elynole wrote:

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Burmeister99 wrote:

For me multiboxing in POE is not so I can profit with more loot but is more of a challenge I plan to multibox 4 toons when oben beta comes and I have been testing it none stop since yesteday and holy shit this is going to be hard

I'm still not sure if its viable at all but ill try.

Properly the hardest game I tried to multibox in and in HC just make it even more fun. Its an enormous task there is standing in front of me but ill try to do. Yesteday I was only dual boxing and I died all the time in HC

There's really only one question you have to ask yourself to find if it's within terms of the game or not. Are you using 3rd party software/hardware to do it? If not, then you're golden!

Automation, automation is not allowed - whether it be scripts or repeaters. Because this would be working your way around content, just like exploiting or any other sort of advantage. If you manually carry around X number of other characters without using this then you're still doing the work for X number of characters and therefore you've earned it.

I am using several 3rd party tools but nothing that interfere with the game client or change it im using programs like autohotkey and ISBox. Is not automation since I have to do everything manually. It is mouse repeaters macro that is used to give command to my other screens.

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Burmeister99 wrote:

I am using several 3rd party tools but nothing that interfere with the game client or change it im using programs like autohotkey and ISBox. Is not automation since I have to do everything manually. It is mouse repeaters macro that is used to give command to my other screens.

Macroing is a form of automation. Otherwise you wouldn't need a third party program to run scripts to project to multiple clients.

I'm not going to sit on a high-horse though and blast you about it, just letting you know that it's pretty safe to say that any 3rd party application is not warranted within PoE.

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Elynole wrote:

Macroing is a form of automation. Otherwise you wouldn't need a third party program to run scripts to project to multiple clients.

I'm not going to sit on a high-horse though and blast you about it, just letting you know that it's pretty safe to say that any 3rd party application is not warranted within PoE.

I believe it is dependent upon the purpose of the macros. I use an autohotkey script to toggle ClipCursor calls, restricting the mouse to PoE's window in windowed mode. I also use it to completely shutdown (by hitting F12) the PoE client program whenever I get unrecoverable mouse or client lock. I don't see either of those two uses being against the terms.

However, using automation to make it possible to dual box is, frankly, no different ethically from botting. The bottom line is, does the use of the external program give you an in game advantage over other players? For both dual boxing and botting the answer is yes, it does.

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Elynole wrote:

I'm not going to sit on a high-horse though and blast you about it, just letting you know that it's pretty safe to say that any 3rd party application is not warranted within PoE.

Do you have any GGG source on this? Would, per se, macro buttons on a G19 be bannable if used for more than 1 task per button?

GGG hasn't said whether key repeaters are ok or not. They said multi boxing is alright though. Just ignore all the posters that try to foist their opinion of whether it is allowed or not and pretend they speak for GGG.

Of course everybody is allowed their personal opinion of whether it is a desirable thing for the game.

I have no objections to multi boxing and key repeaters to make it easier up until unattended bots start running by themselves.

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Mr_Bill wrote:

They said multi boxing is alright though

I may possibly be wrong, but I don't think they actually said that. They said they were OK with people using boosters. The difference is, it didn't involve the use of key repeaters or anything of the sort, because you didn't have to be near the people in your party to get the bonuses. You could just run multiple instances, and at the start of each map move everyone to the waypoint and leave them there while you go to clear everything. That's different from automated repeating of commands over multiple clients, which is what multi boxing refers to specifically.

Also be aware that after OB, modding the client directly will result in getting banned. I realize that these scripts don't interact directly with the client so its not immediately relevant, but worth remembering none the less.