General Discussion - Desync in PoE vs other games - Forum

" Softwerker wrote: I did never encounter a similar severe case of desync or input-lag as with PoE. e.g. D2, D3, TitanQuest, Torchlight (just to name the H&S games I played) I also did not encounter a game (especially with that graphics) that would take instantly 2 GB of my RAM. That do show me a lot about performance optimization. Just to give an excample: PoE - 4.4 GB HDD Space - 2GB+ of RAM WoW - 28 GB HDD Space - 600-800MB of RAM PoE has severe communication flaws in my opinion and GGG has not the manpower and/or the will to fix it (yes, I know that they stated it beeing because of how core mechanics of the game work and is intentional...I just dont believe it). Let's see here.. " Games using client action prediction like ours run into exactly the same sync issues that we do unless they cheat on certain aspects of the simulation. For example, it's common for Action RPGs to do some combination of the following: -Entities can hit each other from a long distance away -There's no chance to hit - all hits occur for sure -Various speed/collision concessions that make it easy to speedhack and/or walk through monsters with modified clients -Attack animations cannot be interrupted (i.e. what we treat as Stun). Now, think again.	Posted by Grughal#6448 on Nov 19, 2013, 4:50:49 PM Quote this Post
My signature's are true! Crafting doesn't exist in POE. Gambling does...and the house always wins. Velocireptile - I LOL'ed. Which made me fart. I wish the office were empty right now :( Hardlicker - I had to push the dog out of the way so I could get to the sexy quilt.	Posted by ToxicRatt#5950 on Nov 19, 2013, 5:24:31 PM Quote this Post
" vixien wrote: My last death to desync was from whirling blades after I just spent most of my nemesis currency on a weapon (281 pure physical dps). It was the most bull crap death I have had. Details: LMP spectral throw using leech/Loh to stay alive (I had to constantly hit stuff to regen due to lack of passive regen) I entered a room that had a ton of those 2h vaal construct dudes and I was killing them. They were spread out so I decided to get in a corner so they would all converge on me and I spectral throw them all to death. When they got near me, I whirling blades behind them and spectral throw to finish them off. Except what happened was I was full hp then bam bam dead with nothing around me. I type /oos after dying and it moved me back to the corner with all the mobs. I could have probably survived staying in the corner IF I KNEW I was there. I had no clue whirling blades had failed to move me and normally I notice desync, but in this case, I had no clue at all. Of course I'm not going to be spamming my potions or getting ready to log out when on my screen there is nothing around me. I have yet to level a character to map level since then because I just can't get in the right mood to push forward again. Every build I try to plan on the passive tree doesn't meet what I want and so I just keep trying to think of a build. I can't start a character until I know what I want to do. What I wanted was to play my spectral throw dude, but I can't bring myself to play a weaker version of what I already had for the 3rd time (first guy dying was my fault). wow best coincidence ever.. i posted this thread because i died IN SAME WAY and before i died i spet all my chaos to buy best sword and equitment then same thing happened to me.. except i was in room with no mobs then suddenly bam bam dead and i teleported 2 rooms back -.- it was huge desync.	Posted by matolife10#1535 on Nov 19, 2013, 5:56:12 PM Quote this Post
Can someone please tell me where this magical "De-Sync" term comes from? Oh that's right it was made to make excuses and keep you from realizing... They made it purposely, to keep hardcore character's dying and add unfair toughness to an #ezwinezlife game. Coincidentally they also provide the command to "temporarily" fix the problem. Fools.... I mean come on, are you really going to tell me it's just a coincidence you die from this only when a large mob is around or a small group of dangerous ones. It's really simple, create the bait of faster leveling/movement/killing and you die. Very similar to the dealer telling you Meth is good. Last edited by tls1989#7708 on Nov 19, 2013, 6:05:02 PM	Posted by tls1989#7708 on Nov 19, 2013, 6:01:47 PM Quote this Post
" CharanJaydemyr wrote: " Crystalgate wrote: Desync is not a problem GGG haven't fixed yet, it's a result of GGG choosing it over letting people cheat. If you disagree with that decision, then quitting is a viable option. Welcome to my signature. To be totally blunt: your sig is a crock of shit. It's an either/or fallacy. IGN: Ironmallet	Posted by Ironmallet#5457 on Nov 19, 2013, 6:09:57 PM Quote this Post
" tls1989 wrote: Can someone please tell me where this magical "De-Sync" term comes from? Oh that's right it was made to make excuses and keep you from realizing... They made it purposely, to keep hardcore character's dying and add unfair toughness to an #ezwinezlife game. Coincidentally they also provide the command to "temporarily" fix the problem. Fools.... i see you have not been there yet. but when you will spend 2 days (full gameplay on charakter 48hours) and die cause of desync then you will come back and will start to cry. Belive me.. when i started playing game i was like desync? nah.. then i started to see some little lag, and i was like "huh gota turn my torrent off" then after week-2 i was farming vaal and bam that kind of desync.. you can't even alt f4 cause you are in a empty room and your life bumping down and suddenly you die, then you desync 2 rooms back. I don't care about little desync but hude desyncs like that are awfull. I dont wan't to even mention how many people died in merciless in act 2 while killing vaal.. NOW WATCH THIS CLIP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc9ydQAUGF0 From 4.40 and then come back to forum and coment and let me see what your response will be like when you put hard work in chara and die like that.	Posted by matolife10#1535 on Nov 19, 2013, 6:10:40 PM Quote this Post
" matolife10 wrote: " tls1989 wrote: Can someone please tell me where this magical "De-Sync" term comes from? Oh that's right it was made to make excuses and keep you from realizing... They made it purposely, to keep hardcore character's dying and add unfair toughness to an #ezwinezlife game. Coincidentally they also provide the command to "temporarily" fix the problem. Fools.... i see you have not been there yet. but when you will spend 2 days (full gameplay on charakter 48hours) and die cause of desync then you will come back and will start to cry. Belive me.. when i started playing game i was like desync? nah.. then i started to see some little lag, and i was like "huh gota turn my torrent off" then after week-2 i was farming vaal and bam that kind of desync.. you can't even alt f4 cause you are in a empty room and your life bumping down and suddenly you die, then you desync 2 rooms back. I don't care about little desync but hude desyncs like that are awfull. I dont wan't to even mention how many people died in merciless in act 2 while killing vaal.. NOW WATCH THIS CLIP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc9ydQAUGF0 From 4.40 and then come back to forum and coment and let me see what your response will be like when you put hard work in chara and die like that. And what does any of this have to do with a scamming company that purposely programmed their game this way? Nice distraction attempt. "Lol'ing all the way to the microtransaction's with this"	Posted by tls1989#7708 on Nov 19, 2013, 6:15:13 PM Quote this Post
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i am not bashing POE, i love POE and i believe that GGG has made a truly great game, hence why i would love to see the desync/ lag issue fixed. ive never played a game with this much desync. like it or not, fixing the desync/lag will do nothing but encourage people to play more, which means more money, ect... i understand that with the release there are more players, which is leading to more server use and ultimately more desync. but GGG, as far as i know, haven't said anything about trying to fix it... all i have heard is "no offline single player, cause you can cheat"... but that doesn't mean they cant do anything to TRY to make it better. from my point of view, the biggest issue with desync is that certain players/people tell you its your fault... like its my fault my internet sucks... like i can control if my internet/ggg server decides to be stupid for 5-10 seconds and i die, or end up 2 rooms down the hall for no reason. and i personally hate it when HC players say "i have no pity for you cause i play HC"...but,umm well doesn't that make you the dumb one for making a HC char on a game that you knew you were going to eventually lag die in? sorry, nothing against HC players. point is, desync messes stuff up for everyone and it doesn't help when people basically insult other people based on if they play HC or not...cause you know some of us have jobs and simply cant dedicate the same amount into a game its just this attitude of its your fault not ours that's ridiculous. i get that you don't want people cheating, but there has to be some middle ground here.	Posted by Mre420#1885 on Nov 19, 2013, 7:09:43 PM Quote this Post
Been playing for sometime, had to quit playing for a long time just because of the desync - all my friends quit playing also and before me. What is sad to me about this is so many skills you cant use that make the desync even worse and not even playable. Really limits ur builds, just destroys the game experience. I came back after the release, still playing having fun, really disappointed with the desync still but nothing I can do about it. It will kill the game for the masses people wont settle for all these problems and not beable to use alot of skills and such, racing is a joke as you run thur mobs you get snap backed in to grps and die what do you get then 1-3 points if your lucky ? bad bad bad. I love the game hope it gets fixed, not excited dont think it really going to happen anytime soon. Ill just keep playing and giving money to other games, Ill keep playing poe here and there but I cant even guess how much this is hurting the game. I know ALL my friends have quit and dont even want to here about any updates or even talk about the game at all. Maybe GGG can sell the game then and im sure only then would it get fixed. /sad /very sad	Posted by Krogothic#7588 on Nov 19, 2013, 7:31:59 PM Quote this Post