The ugly truth about lotteries

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Excyis wrote:

It's true though. "Crafting" system is a joke.

Umm GGG doesn't call it crafting, so I don't know why you put it into quotations...
Clearly the players think its a crafting system, it's not, its a gambling system to facilitate a currency sink.

Only you lot call it crafting.

Back to necro topic...
I wouldn't risk playing lotto because its so easy to scam.

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RootCookie wrote:

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Excyis wrote:

It's true though. "Crafting" system is a joke.

Umm GGG doesn't call it crafting, so I don't know why you put it into quotations...
Clearly the players think its a crafting system, it's not, its a gambling system to facilitate a currency sink.

Only you lot call it crafting.

Back to necro topic...
I wouldn't risk playing lotto because its so easy to scam.

+1

100% agree on it all
the game is "gambling" not crafting
too many scammers to do a lottery

So what?

Can a single person state an idea with easy crafting that would not flood the economy that does not include item binding?

Current system is well balanced. Grind. Trade. Craft (yes, it is crafting since you are modifying an item)

Not sure why people put crafting In quotes. You modify an item in a way that does have a guaranteed result. Jewelers change number of sockets. Fusing changes number of links. Augmentations add a second mod 100% of the time. Regals add a 3rd mod 100% of the time. Exalted adds a 4th, 5th and 6th mod 100% of the time (on non-uniques) These are all guaranteed and do modify the item from the original that was found.

Name one way to have predetermined results that won't flood the market and does not bind items and I'll jump on the bandwagon. I don't think it exists.

EDIT: Reason I include without account bound is because I personally can't stand that and I do believe that is the only real way to do it. GGG does not seem behind that and I love the company for it. But I do accept it is one option to meet all the criteria of easy crafting without flooding the market....I personally would move on under that system.

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Nubatron wrote:

So what?

Can a single person state an idea with easy crafting that would not flood the economy that does not include item binding?

Current system is well balanced. Grind. Trade. Craft (yes, it is crafting since you are modifying an item)

Not sure why people put crafting In quotes. You modify an item in a way that does have a guaranteed result. Jewelers change number of sockets. Fusing changes number of links. Augmentations add a second mod 100% of the time. Regals add a 3rd mod 100% of the time. Exalted adds a 4th, 5th and 6th mod 100% of the time (on non-uniques) These are all guaranteed and do modify the item from the original that was found.

Name one way to have predetermined results that won't flood the market and does not bind items and I'll jump on the bandwagon. I don't think it exists.

Well balanced? Player A uses 500 fusings and gets 3 6L items, Player B uses 8000 fusings and has 1 6L, 800/1 and 500/3, I'm no math expert but that doesn't sound well balanced

Player C decides that the risk is not worth it and takes the guaranteed outcome path: turns to market and trades. Anyone who excludes this path is purposely excluding the 'guaranteed' outcome at a premium that they so desperately desire. I have no sympathy for someone who purposely ignores this option and then complains.

It is a dynamic balance that requires all three to be optimal at this game. Removing any single element will lead to a less optimal approach which is fine. But why would anyone have sympathy for someone who shoots them self in the foot and then complains about not being as fast as other runners.

Agree with OP: The crafting system is very underwhelming and even game breaking for me

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Nubatron wrote:

Well balanced? Player A uses 500 fusings and gets 3 6L items, Player B uses 8000 fusings and has 1 6L, 800/1 and 500/3, I'm no math expert but that doesn't sound well balanced

State lottery player A buys 10 tickets each months for 3 years and only gets 2x 500 dollars out of that. State lottery player B buys 10 tickets in his whole life and gets 1 million dollars on his 10th try.

Upon hearing that, lottery player A flips his lid and writes an angry public letter to the state lottery about how unfair and unballanced their system is and adds that he will not only stop playing the lottery becouse of that but also tell all his friends not to ever play it.

I know it's not exatly the same thing, but i just couldn't resist making the comparison.

Yep it's a pity the "crafting" system is such a gamble, because the itemization is superbly implemented in this game.

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Idioticus wrote:

5L my armor and get 1 exalt! I will link after every fuse!

Sounds familiar? It should, the trade chats are full of these. My worry is that one day it gets to this point:

Make my armor GG and get 10 exalts! I will link after every chaos!



Although there comes problems with lotteries such as scamming, but you have to ask yourself... Why do people do them?

Is it to save money? The answer would almost certainly be "yes", but is this an issue, really? People will do anything to save money, so this isn't the problem, this is a symptom of the problem.
The real problem is, that the entire "crafting" system is a big lottery. You just insert your coins to the slot and hope the pictures align and you can get your prize.


So folks, enjoy these public lotteries, they're here to stay and only get worse because GGG wants them to.

P.S. yes I hate the joke of a system GGG calls "crafting". They should fucking admit they made a huge lottery system instead of lie to our faces and say it's "crafting", cos that's just insulting, assuming we're too fucking stupid to understand what a lottery is.

OP DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER SUGGESTION?? SHOULD WE START HUNTING RHOAS HIDE TO MAKE ARMOUR NOW?? ?????????

Perhaps being able to narrow the range of mods available to roll on an item or capping the number of fusings before guaranteed 5l/6l.

Failing that let's get scalping those Rhoas!