Don't wear Path of Exile Shirts at Blizzcon :) Kripparrian was told not to

Cannot speak for US, but:

1.) If you are SELLING tickets it is NOT a public event. EU law.
It is not public bcs you can refuse to sell tickets to individual persons (not groups, that'd be discrimination)

2.) Refusal of service due to breaching of T&C is fine for any provider, as long as T&C were communicated at point of sale. Also EU law.

3.) Removing someone from a venue where he was permitted entry is much more complex, bcs they'd have to proof a disturbance caused. (simply saying "we don't like it" once you are in is not enough)


Now to the reality:
I don't think any visitor will be reprimanded about a poe shirt.
But invited Guests can be un-invited.

Forums are SOOO much fun on patch day!

Casuals play because it's fun, not to achieve any goal unreachable with their resources.
We are playing for the next difficulty, the next keystone, the next item upgrade.
Not to feel better than anyone else.
Last edited by Fhedaykin#5157 on Nov 7, 2013, 11:23:50 AM
K. I'm gonna make an event with entry via tickets which say that people must strip naked and burn their clothes once inside.

Perfectly legal cos its the ToS.
(b) Personal abuse, foul language, inappropriate subject matter, obscene, harassing, threatening, hateful, or discriminatory or defamatory remarks of any nature ... are not permitted.

- PoE TOS.
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Itsthepolice wrote:
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Tagek wrote:
It's like a celebrity wearing a pepsi shirt at a coca cola event.
You're promoting their direct competitor.

It makes a lot of sense, most companies do this.



The thing is that they think is only about PoE as a brand and not Razer, SteelSeries, Asus, etc .. etc..etc

No .. in their minds its all about PoE and not advertisement in general on focused main events ...


''Competitor''. How are any of those companies you listed competitors to blizzard?
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bhavv wrote:
K. I'm gonna make an event with entry via tickets which say that people must strip naked and burn their clothes once inside.

Perfectly legal cos its the ToS.


That's like saying ''Someone hit me so I'm gonna rape and murder him and I can do that because it's self defense''.

The rule of self defense exists, but you can't take it to the extremes.
Same with a company being allowed to set rules for their own events.
''Stand amongst the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters.
The silence is your answer.''

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Last edited by Tagek#6585 on Nov 7, 2013, 11:32:06 AM
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Tagek wrote:
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Itsthepolice wrote:
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Tagek wrote:
It's like a celebrity wearing a pepsi shirt at a coca cola event.
You're promoting their direct competitor.

It makes a lot of sense, most companies do this.



The thing is that they think is only about PoE as a brand and not Razer, SteelSeries, Asus, etc .. etc..etc

No .. in their minds its all about PoE and not advertisement in general on focused main events ...


''Competitor''. How are any of those companies you listed competitors to blizzard?



First check who typed "competitor" ... was it me? No

I mentioned advertisement in general on a private event. And by advertisement i meant any from any other company but somehow the PoE people think its about PoE ... thats my point.
Trump was asked for sure not to use the Razer shirt on the event.

Last edited by Itsthepolice#5602 on Nov 7, 2013, 11:34:56 AM
Obviously you can wear a poe shirt to blizzcon if u want but kripp was just not allowed to wear it while he is on stage playing in the hs tournament wich is understandable
This is a crisis I knew had to come,
Destroying the balance I'd kept.
@Itsthepolice

Ah my bad I glanced over your post. I thought you meant blizzard was singling out PoE, but you actually mean that's what others think. ^^

Nevermind.
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The silence is your answer.''

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Last edited by Tagek#6585 on Nov 7, 2013, 11:41:52 AM
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bhavv wrote:
They couldn't legally ask that in the US or within the EU regardless of it being their own event.

Fuck yeah, of course they can.
Their event, their rules, easy as that ..... in germany it would be "Hausrecht".

Never saw people in front of a disco in an argument with the bouncers? They can kick you out of whatever reason (as long as no racist stuff etc).
Make
Spectral Throw
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Last edited by CommodoX#7313 on Nov 7, 2013, 11:46:20 AM
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bhavv wrote:
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Meistervinny wrote:
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bhavv wrote:
They couldn't legally ask that in the US or within the EU regardless of it being their own event.


They can't legally tell you what to wear, but they can legally reject you entrance to their private establishment, the fact that you bought a ticket does not matter because by buying it you also accept their terms and conditions.


Well in the UK they cant. No one can deny you entry based on what you are wearing as it would fall under discrimination laws, and its the same within EU law as well.

There are enough cases where Muslims dressed in Burkhas were refused entry to many places, and all such cases that are taken to the courts end up with a huge payout to the woman in a Burkha.

Well they can refuse you entry sure, and you can sue them for loads of money for discrimination.

Any such establishment can only impose a dress code on its employees, not to any customer.


That is complete bullshit. Ever heard of dress-code in a casino? You think you can wear "whatever you want" to a casino or a fancy restaurant? They are allowed to not let you in when they don't feel like it.
Burkha is a different case, because it's tied to religion, but even then you can only demand entry into public buildings such as libraries, but if a guy does not want you in his casino, well you can't go.

Also as a lot of other people have mentioned here it is normal that on those events you are not allowed to wear "advertisemt" of other companies when you are part of their programfor an event that is supposed to promote another game.

And please everyone stop pretending like blizzard is "afraid" of PoE, it doesn't make sense on so many levels and would just indicate your limit knowledge of anything related to economic studies.
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CommodoX wrote:
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bhavv wrote:
They couldn't legally ask that in the US or within the EU regardless of it being their own event.

Fuck yeah, of course they can.
Their event, their rules, easy as that ..... in germany it would be "Hausrecht".

Never saw people in front of a disco in an argument with the bouncers? They can kick you out of whatever reason (as long as no racist stuff etc).



Its not a matter of "their rules" its a general rule. You cant advertize any product from other companies on a private event while you are ( in this case ) on stage and focused if specifcly not allowed by the company. But if you arent on stage you can wear and advertise whatever you on your clothing.
Last edited by Itsthepolice#5602 on Nov 7, 2013, 12:08:01 PM

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