If you are nerfing auras you need to buff Eldritch Battery

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SirLoin wrote:

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Peenk wrote:

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SirLoin wrote:

You'll still be able to stack auras with EB, just not as many. But EB still has other great uses. It can allow you to run a high level arctic armor, which is amazing at high levels. And it can also allow you to use high mana cost skills without the need for mana leech. With the addition of mana shield, EB will be even more powerful.

So you're expecting people to get enough life nodes for 4k+ life, then get EB AND go to the bottom of the tree for Manna Shield, oh and on top of all this people are expected to stack % aura nodes because of this update. dps nodes & Mana or ES nodes to make EB worth it.. LOL


Edit: Let's not forget, we need to do all this around the outside of the tree now cause' of the Scion.

I have over 4K life, and EB, and I am right next to the node where mana shield was in the 1.0 skill tree when Chris previewed it. Also, I go around the outside of the tree so I won't be affected by the Scion blocking off the middle. So to answer your question, yes I am expecting people to do just that.

I apologize for my hostility. Mind linking your gear and/or passive tree? I'd like to see, you must have some special stuff.

I have 3.6k life, EB, and also close by to where mana shield was. The point I'm making is with acrobatics on top of EB, the goal of my character is most likely not possible. I have all Ev/Es hybrid gear but alpha howl. There is room for upgrading, but I think my character would still top out at like 1600 mana. Auras + mana shield dmg, not running BM, and the persistants of half regen mods on maps will make the character fustrating to play instead of fun like right now.

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Peenk wrote:

I apologize for my hostility. Mind linking your gear and/or passive tree? I'd like to see, you must have some special stuff.

This is the tree my incinerate ranger uses:http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgIBAF4B3AR-BS0F-QbpCC4OSA6tES8RlhR1FfAY2xmOGtsb-iFgI_YkPCSdJd8nYSepKaUyATpYPeJAoEOcR35JUUp9TeNW-lpIWm1eE2BLYSFh4mJaZU1noG5pdEF07XTxeA167311f8aCHoTZhO-HGYd2h9uIa5mamyabjZ65oqOjiqQZp1ypbqvFrFmsr7IZtve307vjvorB88OGxKLEuM96037V-NfL2j3bC9724urjhOd055Ho1utj7YPuDu967_D5Y_zF_o_-ug==

This is my Frenzy Duelist:http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgQBBH4FLQW1DI0M8g1JDkgOrREvEZYV8BjbGtsbrRv6IWAj9iQ8Jd8nqSmlMgE2PTpYPeI-z0BVQKBDnEd-SO5JO0lRSn1RR1PfVvpY21pIWm1br2BLYeJlTWegbmlvV3J-dO108Xiueu9_xoIehNmE74cZh3aH24hrjX2Nv5krmZqbJpuDnrmio6QZpcunNKdcqn-quKvFrK-yGbTFtve3072Bvea-p8HzxLjN6s96037V-NfL2wvdDeOE6NbrY-4O7_Dw2fF2-WP8xQ==

The Ranger has just over 4k life and the duelist just over 4.2k.

I'm currently sharing gear between the two chars but here is what they have between them:

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Dunnzo wrote:

Well my ci crit dagger with Anger,Wrath, Hated, Discipline and grace is fucked.

ha..hahah..............

Your physical damage build depends on anger and wrath................?

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topcatti wrote:

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Dunnzo wrote:

Well my ci crit dagger with Anger,Wrath, Hated, Discipline and grace is fucked.

ha..hahah..............

Your physical damage build depends on anger and wrath................?

Anger and Wrath are both cost efficient dps increases for a weapon dmg build regardless if physical or elemental

Planned changes to auras smell very bad to me. I don't know all the details, but from what I know, it seems like builds that includes the EB or Bloodmagic keystone will be nerfed more than other builds. On the other hand, solo players may be much more affected than party players. I don't think that either EB, Bloodmagic or solo players deserve a nerf.

In my opinion, the PoE Auras system, the way it is currently, is flawless (or almost - see below). There's a total of 11 different auras : 5 flat mana auras (Grace, Clarity, Discipline, Wrath and Anger) and 6 percentage based auras (Haste, Hatred, Purity, Determination, Vitality and Tempest Shield).

Flat mana auras are easier to stack for bloodmagic characters and builds with lots of mana (typically EB) but very hard to stack for low mana characters. On the other hand, percentage based auras are relatively easier to stack for characters with low amount of mana and almost impossible for bloodmagic character. Characters with very high amount of mana (typically EB) were the only one able to stack 7 or more auras. But there's a sacrifice coming with EB : less defense. All the energy shield converted to mana would have been used as defense otherwise. And even EB builds had to choose which auras to get. Getting all 11 auras was impossible.

Also, not one single aura was so important that it was considered required. Most aura could be replaced by 2 to 4 passive points. Your choice of auras (and their number) was one of several ways to build you character in Path of Exile. I'm afraid we may lose that in the next patch.

So, what was wrong with the auras system yet ? Can anyone tell me ? Why fix something if it isn't broken.

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In my opinion, the only problem with the current auras system was the ability for Low life characters to stack many percentage auras (on life). I don't even think that what they are suggesting will fix that. To solve this problem, we should certainly not mess with the whole auras system but simply fix a broken unique item.

Well now you can't even buff your mana with Disc anymore... EB seems pretty trash now tbh

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Tyronis3 wrote:

Well now you can't even buff your mana with Disc anymore... EB seems pretty trash now tbh

Even though EB is vital to some of my builds, you have to admit disc with EB was kind of broken. Running an aura that reserves your mana yet gives you more mana than it reserves.... just silly :P

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Rogomatic wrote:

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Peenk wrote:

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Rogomatic wrote:

Yeah, because low-life builds never take the Blood Magic keystone to stack auras on life.

/facepalm

Are you palming your self there buddy? No Low-Life build uses the keystone, HF casting skills using life with 70 life.

You must be somewhat poorly informed. Apparently not everyone plays the game the way you think they do.

http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/524282

Lol one build where it even states is not usable in HC. GG.