WHY DON'T YOU LIKE TO TRADE?

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MierenEronaile wrote:

There is nothing nice about 6ling items in 20 fusings when others need 5000. Its just pure stupid. Number needs to be standardized a bit.

Ignoring that, they need a whole new set of orbs that increases the chance for exalts to roll what you want. Youll still need exalt/eternals because its not guaranteed still, but it would vastly improve the current system.

If you start standardizing the crafting system, you quickly reach a point where you might as well be trading.

Choosing exactly what you want and inputting what's necessary to get it. Is that not trading?

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Subversus wrote:

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MierenEronaile wrote:

There is nothing nice about 6ling items in 20 fusings when others need 5000. Its just pure stupid. Number needs to be standardized a bit.

Ignoring that, they need a whole new set of orbs that increases the chance for exalts to roll what you want. Youll still need exalt/eternals because its not guaranteed still, but it would vastly improve the current system.

If you start standardizing the crafting system, you quickly reach a point where you might as well be trading.

Choosing exactly what you want and inputting what's necessary to get it. Is that not trading?

Err, so crafting would become similar in effectiveness to trading? Yep, thats what I want. I hate trading, Id rather craft, I want them to be close to eachother in effectiveness. Simple?

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Subversus wrote:

Choosing exactly what you want and inputting what's necessary to get it. Is that not trading?

Trading in PoE consists mostly of spamming and dealing with hostile players. So, no, that's not (PoE's version of) trading.

Mieren, using 20 Fusings and getting a 6L is not fucking stupid. It is fucking gambling. What's next — you say that farming is bullshit because some people find Shavronne's and other people don't?

Meanwhile, you're pretty much reposting the exact same opinion, over and over again, not actually adding new content, while my epic post is increasingly buried. Seriously, read that thing. I put a lot of work into it.

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Fluffhead wrote:

The people that don't like to trade often tend to be the same people that prefer to play solo.

They're most likely anti-social. I pray for their social skills.

Disagree. I work in finance, I understand trade. I know that arbitrage is the most efficient use of my time. I don't want to play Path of Market Exploitation. I do want to play socially and cooperate with friends. I would play self-found and divide loot between my party.

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Subversus wrote:

It can't be forgotten that the forums are quite a small sample size, and furthermore the players here are most likely here to complain, as players who enjoy the game spend their time doing just that.

I know we've already had this convo but the fact remains, I don't think it's wise to consider the idea of trading in PoE broken just because a chunk of the forums is admittedly too lazy to do it/not interested.

I'd imagine the average player has no idea poe.xyz even exists. Imagine trying to trade without even that.

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

Mieren, using 20 Fusings and getting a 6L is not fucking stupid. It is fucking gambling. What's next — you say that farming is bullshit because some people find Shavronne's and other people don't?

Meanwhile, you're pretty much reposting the exact same opinion, over and over again, not actually adding new content, while my epic post is increasingly buried. Seriously, read that thing. I put a lot of work into it.

It is stupid because I have seen devs post that getting a 6l needs to be hard. That they cant make it 'easier' because its so powerful. And then they let people get one with 20 fusings. Winning gambling is not HARD, ITS FUCKING RANDOM. And that ruins it for me. I feel I should be able to improve my character through hard work, not through gggs code for pure random.

See, I am ok with gambling a bit. Gambling a bit is fine. And that is what getting loot drops and currency drops is. You kill a mob, you get something or you dont. You pay with time, and you gamble for currency and loot.

Thats awesome, and what an ARPG should be about.

Then, in path, we gamble to get the number of sockets we need. That is the second level of gambling, and it is not TO bad, because it can be achieved with at most a days farming.

Then, we gamble to get the links we need, and that is a fucking nightmare. See, gambling is ok. Once. What path does is like gambling in a casino, winning, then gambling to be allowed to LEAVE the casino, and then gambling to be allowed to get in your car, and then gambling to be able to unlock your fucking door.

In regards to your post, sure. That was well thought out, congratulations?

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Veta321 wrote:

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Fluffhead wrote:

The people that don't like to trade often tend to be the same people that prefer to play solo.

They're most likely anti-social. I pray for their social skills.

Disagree. I work in finance, I understand trade. I know that arbitrage is the most efficient use of my time. I don't want to play Path of Market Exploitation. I do want to play socially and cooperate with friends. I would play self-found and divide loot between my party.

I want to second this as hard as I possibly can.

When I start up PoE, I'm expecting to play an action RPG, not Stock Market Simulator 2013. I want to spend my time cleaving, stabbing, burning, freezing, zapping, and crushing the shit out of monsters with my friends, not endlessly spamming "WTS/WTB" for hours on end.

You don't even have to make an analogy, you can just say "I don't see the point of ever trying to fuse a 6L when I can just trade for one, which is the only way I will ever have one of these things".

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