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Posted byDeletedon Oct 4, 2013, 12:02:17 PM
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I like how the BETA was meant for testing, yet they are introducing a HUGE change (new class, major work to the tree) without any prior testing for it, ON THE RELEASE DATE
its like they are trying to desperately grab new audience because everything will be new on the 1.0
Just another proof that the BETA tag was abused, and 1.0 is just an expansion pack
it seems that you are the first one to read my post in its entirety..
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Posted bysidtherat#1310on Oct 4, 2013, 12:02:57 PM
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arbait_333 wrote:
I like how the BETA was meant for testing, yet they are introducing a HUGE change (new class, major work to the tree) without any prior testing for it, ON THE RELEASE DATE
its like they are trying to desperately grab new audience because everything will be new on the 1.0
Just another proof that the BETA tag was abused, and 1.0 is just an expansion pack
No testing? Not for nothing here, but what exactly do you think GGG has been doing while they've been developing this new content for release? I mean, someone has to sort of, you know, -test it- to make sure that it actually works during the months they've been working on it, yeah? Now, if you mean mass-testing, then I could see what you mean, but to say the content is just being released untested is a bit much. I could also see the beta being used a bit longer than it could have been, but really, I think you're trying a bit too hard to downplay this stuff.
They also have an alpha realm with alpha testers and that has been used plenty of times in the past for released content and I'm sure there has been alpha testing for this stuff as well. Could be that there wasn't any, but I'm going to say that there was some testing going on and this stuff isn't being thrown out here to the masses without it.
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Posted byTanakeah#5640on Oct 4, 2013, 12:05:35 PM
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They also have an alpha realm with alpha testers and that has been used plenty of times in the past for released content and I'm sure there has been alpha testing for this stuff as well. Could be that there wasn't any, but I'm going to say that there was some testing going on and this stuff isn't being thrown out here to the masses without it.
alpha testers.. yep, right
go and read Reave changes and how simple to notice skill-breaking bugs alpha testers have missed.
also - no matter how bad alpha testing is in this game - alpha realm does not include new uniques so funny stuff like soul taker went on untested at all
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Posted bysidtherat#1310on Oct 4, 2013, 12:08:48 PM
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arbait_333 wrote:
I like how the BETA was meant for testing, yet they are introducing a HUGE change (new class, major work to the tree) without any prior testing for it, ON THE RELEASE DATE
its like they are trying to desperately grab new audience because everything will be new on the 1.0
Just another proof that the BETA tag was abused, and 1.0 is just an expansion pack
No testing? Not for nothing here, but what exactly do you think GGG has been doing while they've been developing this new content for release? I mean, someone has to sort of, you know, -test it- to make sure that it actually works during the months they've been working on it, yeah? Now, if you mean mass-testing, then I could see what you mean, but to say the content is just being released untested is a bit much. I could also see the beta being used a bit longer than it could have been, but really, I think you're trying a bit too hard to downplay this stuff.
They also have an alpha realm with alpha testers and that has been used plenty of times in the past for released content and I'm sure there has been alpha testing for this stuff as well. Could be that there wasn't any, but I'm going to say that there was some testing going on and this stuff isn't being thrown out here to the masses without it.
you are missing the part that testing is NOT done... new content major changes! balancing still bugs to fix... 1.0 implies the game is done, BETA implied it wasn't (and that's the excuse they used).... yet there is NO difference between BETA and 1.0 in terms of completion... all they did was add new content and major changes to the game without testing anything of it in the BETA... BETA to 1.0 is not to introduce new major shit.. is to polish your product!
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Posted byarbait_333#0948on Oct 4, 2013, 12:11:21 PM
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Calm tits, we will see what happens after relase. The game will be more balanced prob. and i believe it. Dont cry me a river now. Cry after end of beta.
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Posted byeLFi20111#5331on Oct 4, 2013, 12:12:10 PM
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Tanakeah wrote:
They also have an alpha realm with alpha testers and that has been used plenty of times in the past for released content and I'm sure there has been alpha testing for this stuff as well. Could be that there wasn't any, but I'm going to say that there was some testing going on and this stuff isn't being thrown out here to the masses without it.
alpha testers.. yep, right
go and read Reave changes and how simple to notice skill-breaking bugs alpha testers have missed.
also - no matter how bad alpha testing is in this game - alpha realm does not include new uniques so funny stuff like soul taker went on untested at all
This is not a DotA/LoL/AoS game if you don't have broken items then what is the point of playing it. If you are worried about pvp then you can worry about it after it's implemented and not a month before playing it. As the "Boss" mentioned in the interview the biggest difference will be the builds and not the items that are gonna dominate the pvps.
I'm a forum warrior, i was born to post, raised to defend my league. Now my post has been removed, chained and exiled by mods who Ban. Ban is my brother; i do not fear it. I see it in the eyes of men and beasts that i troll. It will take me to play the actual game when i am ready and i am not ready.
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Posted byPyrokar#6587on Oct 4, 2013, 12:13:43 PM
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sidtherat wrote:
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Tanakeah wrote:
They also have an alpha realm with alpha testers and that has been used plenty of times in the past for released content and I'm sure there has been alpha testing for this stuff as well. Could be that there wasn't any, but I'm going to say that there was some testing going on and this stuff isn't being thrown out here to the masses without it.
alpha testers.. yep, right
go and read Reave changes and how simple to notice skill-breaking bugs alpha testers have missed.
also - no matter how bad alpha testing is in this game - alpha realm does not include new uniques so funny stuff like soul taker went on untested at all
And so? Testers are not infallible and will miss things...that happens in every single game that gets tested with either a small or large audience. World of Warcraft gets lots of PTR exposure for major content patches and yet 'simple or obvious' or 'skill-breaking' bugs are missed in it all the time and there are far more people testing there than there.
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Posted byTanakeah#5640on Oct 4, 2013, 12:13:44 PM
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Tanakeah wrote:
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sidtherat wrote:
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Tanakeah wrote:
They also have an alpha realm with alpha testers and that has been used plenty of times in the past for released content and I'm sure there has been alpha testing for this stuff as well. Could be that there wasn't any, but I'm going to say that there was some testing going on and this stuff isn't being thrown out here to the masses without it.
alpha testers.. yep, right
go and read Reave changes and how simple to notice skill-breaking bugs alpha testers have missed.
also - no matter how bad alpha testing is in this game - alpha realm does not include new uniques so funny stuff like soul taker went on untested at all
And so? Testers are not infallible and will miss things...that happens in every single game that gets tested with either a small or large audience. World of Warcraft gets lots of PTR exposure for major content patches and yet 'simple or obvious' or 'skill-breaking' bugs are missed in it all the time and there are far more people testing there than there.
oh I did not know they went the Blizz way.... if that is so I will stop using anything that they make... we all know what happened to D3, and D3 release was the BETA... and a really bad one at that.. here we seem to have the same problem
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Posted byarbait_333#0948on Oct 4, 2013, 12:15:46 PM
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eLFi20111 wrote:
Calm tits, we will see what happens after relase. The game will be more balanced prob. and i believe it. Dont cry me a river now. Cry after end of beta.
I can tell you that most people that left because of the issues PoE had will leave as soon as they find out that nothing was really fixed about it...
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Posted byarbait_333#0948on Oct 4, 2013, 12:17:26 PM
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