Diablo 3 is happy to admit it has problems and copy POE & other ARPGs to improve.

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tobes111 wrote:

endless dungeon / random waves at ANY Time > mapping bro

or do you enjoy RNG being your end game?

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Snorkle_uk wrote:

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tobes111 wrote:

endless dungeon / random waves at ANY Time > mapping bro

or do you enjoy RNG being your end game?

theres no endless dungeon or waves in d3. There is waves in the unique crypt map in PoE, you know, actually in the game right now. They have endless ledge and descent, which have a chance of being added to the full leagues long before you see a Diablo 3 expansion pack on the shelves. You are measuring Blizzard Promises against PoE reality, and not even doing a good job of that. D3 are also adding maps, why not talk about that too seeing as everything you mention that has been promised for D3 is either already in PoE or will be before its a reality in D3.

loot 2.0 is a clusterfuck, if you go and look at the items they are previewing to show it off they are complete dogshit jokes for build defining items. 'Chance to spawn a hydra on kill' really? Thats a build defining unique that puts PoEs items to shame? Get real mate the items in d3 are a joke, will always be a joke, theres no builds to base items off and theres no items to base builds off because theres no mechanics in the game to support either.

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tobes111 wrote:

endless dungeon / random waves at ANY Time > mapping bro

or do you enjoy RNG being your end game?

wow are u serious , we already had that , dont u remember Maelstrom of chaos?The fact is that thats boring , the point is not that RNG controls your game but that "everything is an item" which is a way more interesting and arpg-ish . Anyway repeating again , we all know maps were meant to be only a part of endgame, why are u complaining.

GGG make it really clear when they got released they were meant to be used for items and not exp!people now complain they cant progress when actually it isnt supposed to progress , dont u remember they said it could even take years to reach 100?How come everyone is suddenly so suprised maps are doing what they are supposed to do.

In fact now maps offer the best items u cant get in any other place , there is a reason they have a Increased quantity bonus and not a experience one.

in fact yes a person should be considered a troll when he suggests endless dungeons because guess what we already had that , capish?

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The thing is D3 doesnt have many good parts to copy ...we already got the shiny light when unique drop but other than that....we dont really have any choises..

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Lachdanan wrote:

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The thing is D3 doesnt have many good parts to copy ...we already got the shiny light when unique drop but other than that....we dont really have any choises..

Actually, Bill Roper called today and asked me to give back his Innovations, first seen in Hellgate London, shiny light for uniques, implemented because you really couldnt find such items with a screen filled of items in true 3D(shooter)-view.

One might argue why D3 copied Hellgate-London so much, just different UI.

Endless dungeon = play the game, it is one endless dungeon

MF = wait for new uniques to get introduced, they rock

mapping system = Torchlight/Mythos says hello

selffound = trendword, misses a clear definition for now, how about come up with one?

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tobes111 wrote:

1) diablo 3 actually has a dueling system where you dont have to QUEUE to find someone (lol @ queue i mean what are we in 1990?)

2) accoutn bound MF > all

3) endless waves in expac - due out mid 2014? - lame but who cares, they DANGLE a carrot and keep players coming back

which is what blizz is good at. draining little kiddies and their bank accounts

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Hell_Bovine wrote:

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MadBro_ wrote:

lol really?

Are u really suprised people dont want a carebear league and an AH?So ye D3 admits it has some problems and all u wanna do is copy their problems?

The thing is D3 doesnt have many good parts to copy ...we already got the shiny light when unique drop but other than that....we dont really have any choises..

>Implying Diablo 3 has absolutely 0 good game design.

Now thats far too harsh, even for a POE fanboy.

lol really , tell me what part of the game design could PoE possibly copy from D3? If u are talking about combat smoothness thats not a part u can just copy and it comes with time and money.I am not saying they have 0 good game design , i am saying PoE has better game design....
hell i love the game and maybe i am a bit too fanboyish but i never talk without thinking.

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tobes111 wrote:

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MadBro_ wrote:

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tobes111 wrote:

endless dungeon / random waves at ANY Time > mapping bro

or do you enjoy RNG being your end game?

wow are u serious , we already had that , dont u remember Maelstrom of chaos?The fact is that thats boring , the point is not that RNG controls your game but that "everything is an item" which is a way more interesting and arpg-ish . Anyway repeating again , we all know maps were meant to be only a part of endgame, why are u complaining.

GGG make it really clear when they got released they were meant to be used for items and not exp!people now complain they cant progress when actually it isnt supposed to progress , dont u remember they said it could even take years to reach 100?How come everyone is suddenly so suprised maps are doing what they are supposed to do.

In fact now maps offer the best items u cant get in any other place , there is a reason they have a Increased quantity bonus and not a experience one.

in fact yes a person should be considered a troll when he suggests endless dungeons because guess what we already had that , capish?

maelstrom of chaos?

whhat is this and how do i access it in game?

i mean what are you even playign bro?

Can you access it in PoE RIGH TNOW?

been playing since open beta started and havent even haerrd of this

must be some newsletter thing

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MadBro_ wrote:

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Hell_Bovine wrote:

>Implying Diablo 3 has absolutely 0 good game design.

Now thats far too harsh, even for a POE fanboy.

lol really , tell me what part of the game design could PoE possibly copy from D3? If u are talking about combat smoothness thats not a part u can just copy and it comes with time and money.I am not saying they have 0 good game design , i am saying PoE has better game design....
hell i love the game and maybe i am a bit too fanboyish but i never talk without thinking.

Just listing where D3 is better (note: I don't like D3 at all. But i'm not retarded):
Trading (AH is awesome). Gameperformance. Desync. Banning of forum trolls. MF. Boss-fights.

And just btw: Endless dungeon and maps are exactly the same fucking thing. The difference is just that you can choose the next map but have to spend SHITLOADS for it being somewhat worthwhile.