So is GGG selling out, or what?

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CharanJaydemyr wrote:

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lethal_papercut wrote:

Let's be real for 1second here...ANYONE who is here from CB will be quite surprised at this action. The way GGG talked so lovingly about 'their vision' for the game 'they always wanted to play' & how lore was so important & keeping the authenticity of Wraelast was paramount.

Oh yeah, those big shiny kiwis were totally in keeping with the authenticity of Wraeclast.

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Magnicon2 wrote:

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Wittgenstein wrote:

@the OP and everyone with that mindset:

GGG is a company. A small one, made up of real people with real obligations - real wives/husbands/children/medical bills/mortgage payments etc... they aren't *selling out* because they aren't a group of teenagers in a garage. GROW. THE HECK. UP.

How longly it must be, sitting in the corner, frothing at the mouth and insulting/lashing out at the vast majority of gamers, and developers, the 99% of other online games that don't sell out with in game advertising for a damn good reason. I didn't realize children and idiots run the gaming industry.

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Wittgenstein wrote:

if GGG hadn't told us what it was for and had just said "hey check out this new green footprint we added" nobody would have even made the connection.

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Wittgenstein wrote:

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Magnicon2 wrote:

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Wittgenstein wrote:

@the OP and everyone with that mindset:

GGG is a company. A small one, made up of real people with real obligations - real wives/husbands/children/medical bills/mortgage payments etc... they aren't *selling out* because they aren't a group of teenagers in a garage. GROW. THE HECK. UP.

How longly it must be, sitting in the corner, frothing at the mouth and insulting/lashing out at the vast majority of gamers, and developers, the 99% of other online games that don't sell out with in game advertising for a damn good reason. I didn't realize children and idiots run the gaming industry.

I have no idea what you are talking about.. tell me something, Was having PoE plastered all over the PCgamer website "selling out"? This "in game add" you are so upset about is all but indistinguishable in the game itself, the effect lasts for seconds, if GGG hadn't told us what it was for and had just said "hey check out this new green footprint we added" nobody would have even made the connection.

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lethal_papercut wrote:

Let's be real for 1second here...ANYONE who is here from CB will be quite surprised at this action. The way GGG talked so lovingly about 'their vision' for the game 'they always wanted to play' & how lore was so important & keeping the authenticity of Wraelast was paramount.

It's the reason there was such a big debate about looting options. "We are exiles in a harsh land and should act accordingly" we were told, asif the lore of the land dictated our play. "You can't have pants as there are no horses in Wraelast & it wouldn't fit the lore" we were told. "We have had many internal debates over adding health bars & have decided against numbers as they break immersion" we were told.

12months ago GGG were adamant about their design goals, they seemed resolute to make sure their vision was not compromised in any way, the footprints show a huge turn in direction.

Whether you think it is a good thing or not it is absolutely fair to say that for GGG this does not coincide with their past attitudes...something has changed.

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Tanakeah wrote:

And then reality of the real world came in and served them up a harsh dose of truth. GGG began developing their game, putting it out into the real world and saw that their vision...well...couldn't stand. Reality is a harsh mistress and even the best laid visions, the most staunch attitudes behind decisions, those who would shout from the rooftops that their goals will not change...reality changes that really fast. That's not to say their intentions weren't good/noble/whatever, but idealistic banter that GGG said wasn't going to hold and sadly, anyone who somehow thought that it would given the current state of the world we live in now was simply fooling themselves.

The things that have happened over the last year have shown a change in direction and shown that GGG is having to accept that harsh truth that the real world brings. And perhaps in some cases maybe that harsh truth has shown that their previous talks were just that...talks...and that there's a big difference between talking and actually having to do. Methinks in some ways GGG may have tried to bite off more than they could chew with this game at times and they honestly didn't think everything through. THAT IS NOT TO SAY THAT THEIR GAME SUCKS, please don't misunderstand that. What it is saying, is that you can say the noblest of things, but when you're faced with real world deadlines, money being a big issue, and learning that perhaps some of your decisions may have just honestly been wrong...well...again...that's reality.

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bilbobeastlybaggins wrote:

Its amazing to me that you guys seem to want this game to have a low budget. This game can be even more incredible with a higher budget . GGG needs to do more advertising, get more sponsors and greatly expand their budget in my opinion.

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I partly agree that GGG are dreamers who have had a dose of reality but I feel that their business could have worked had they tried harder.

Ethical, none pay2win MTXS were supposed to pay for this game. I believe they could have. I blame GGG for having such a poor selection, particularly at OB launch.