R.I.P. Degen Bearz You Will Be Missed

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Saltychipmunk wrote:

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Freeslana wrote:

The OP is hilarious, nerfing an exploit? This might be nerfing builds that shouldn't have had access to this at all, by fixing an exploit. Shav's build needed this, melee ele builds might need a slight buff, but it's all just fixing something that shouldn't have been there.

unfortunately that exploit was the only thing which justified the existence of the blood magic items as now it is simply easier to just take the time to get blood magic since it is located on the passive skill highway. malachias and the covenant have very mediocre stats that get easily out paced 5 - 10 levels after they are introduced.


another thing to take into account is that most str based melee builds and even dex based builds never have enough mana to really get their critical auras up until very very late game.

ill admit it my mara was using the exploit to use grace which is literally 40% of my total armor but there is no way i can use it and determinaton/ purity ( which become more and more necessary the farther you go in the game).

This will probably destroy non int based mana builds. resource management was already garbage for those builds anyway , and required heavy investment be it though sacrificing a gem slot or 10 - 15 passives.

getting even 500 mana requires no small amount of int / gear investment let alone the 1000 - 2000 mana you need to viably use high mana spells and auras.


so yes it is fixing a bug but it will introduce alot of bad balance when it is removed, and who knows how long it will take for that fall out to be cleaned up.

And you know what , in the mean time my mara will be pretty much unplayable. And if i cannot play the character i want to play because I factually know that it is completely broken and inferior , well then im gona go play dark souls or hell Duke NukeM Forever so i can avoid the frustration. I wont be the only person with that train of thought either.

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Saltychipmunk wrote:

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unfortunately that exploit was the only thing which justified the existence of the blood magic items as now it is simply easier to just take the time to get blood magic since it is located on the passive skill highway. malachias and the covenant have very mediocre stats that get easily out paced 5 - 10 levels after they are introduced.


another thing to take into account is that most str based melee builds and even dex based builds never have enough mana to really get their critical auras up until very very late game.

ill admit it my mara was using the exploit to use grace which is literally 40% of my total armor but there is no way i can use it and determinaton/ purity ( which become more and more necessary the farther you go in the game).

This will probably destroy non int based mana builds. resource management was already garbage for those builds anyway , and required heavy investment be it though sacrificing a gem slot or 10 - 15 passives.

getting even 500 mana requires no small amount of int / gear investment let alone the 1000 - 2000 mana you need to viably use high mana spells and auras.


so yes it is fixing a bug but it will introduce alot of bad balance when it is removed, and who knows how long it will take for that fall out to be cleaned up.

And you know what , in the mean time my mara will be pretty much unplayable. And if i cannot play the character i want to play because I factually know that it is completely broken and inferior , well then im gona go play dark souls or hell Duke NukeM Forever so i can avoid the frustration. I wont be the only person with that train of thought either.

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Achilion wrote:

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Mikrotherion wrote:

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Achilion wrote:

Aura Exploit Nerf

Bold print by me.

This one is especially cute.

I'm with you on some of the others and an opponent on nerfs in general, but calling fixing an exploit a nerf is, well, funny.

Aura Exploit has become essential part of how ppl create their builds
Items like covenant and malachai's will take a drop in value for sure.
In my opinion this should not be taken as an exploit and should not be fixed it was addin to game depth for ppl to figure that kind of mechanics.

This change imo make the game worse

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THEHORNEDRAT wrote:

How about learning to play instead of relying on exploits, hmmm? Its not difficult. Click click here and click click there! :)

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Real_Wolf wrote:

Mana is already a badly made feature, with auras being the side effect of having too much.

Now people are complaining aobut not having enough mana, when previously the only reason they ran auras was because 'fuckit, i have the mana'

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Vipermagi wrote:

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

Not sure how good the reduced mana passives are by themselves, but in conjunction with EB they are awesome.

They're always awesome. <3
The Duelist gets 20% Reduced Cost pretty easily. When you're burning 200 Mana (or Life) per second, that effectively grants you 40 Mana/s, for three skill points. With 600 Max Mana, that's half of what you Leech; better than 20% Quality on the support gem.
I love these things.

The Mara can grab 15%, which is also very noticable. Templar gets 10% in his elemental/AoE/Mana clusterfuck, and good access to the 15% (Elemental Adaptation is super close).