R.I.P. Degen Bearz You Will Be Missed

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

I fully support the theory, although not the actual implementation, of the life nodes nerf, because it was simultaneously accompanied by a buff (reduced monster damage). I have major qualms with the specific numbers, and I would have preferred a buff to base life (which would have avoided the whole ES confusion, since monster damage and ES nodes wouldn't have changed), but on a philosophical level I believe it was the right type of change; nerf this, simultaneously buff that.

That said, I do have a problem with the current nerf/buff balance. It seems to me that nerfs happen a lot more often than buffs, and in general that's not a good direction to take. Using both strategies about equally is the proper path.

And melee is definitely due some buffs. For example, that whole Anger/Wrath thing? How about increasing the Damage Effectiveness of melee skills so that melee has the old Anger/Wrath DPS, without even needing to use Anger or Wrath? That's the type of appropriate buff that should accompany something like the Covenant bug fix.

OP takes things too far, but the community as a whole is too nerf-happy, and someone should take a stand defending a more moderate version of OP's views.

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SL4Y3R wrote:

If melee had a problem with dmg, I would agree. But they dont, so I fail to understand why people see this as a nerf.

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

Now if you're suggesting that melee damage was previously OP... well, then you play a different game than I do.

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

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SL4Y3R wrote:

If melee had a problem with dmg, I would agree. But they dont, so I fail to understand why people see this as a nerf.

You mean an unjustified nerf. It's obviously a nerf; sure, it's also a bug-fix, but that doesn't exclude it from being a nerf.

My opinion? Melee has it hard enough; no melee nerf at this point is justified unless accompanied by a corresponding buff. Since it's a bug-fix (and also a reasonable nerf to ranged attacks and Shavronne's), we want the nerf to happen; therefore, corresponding buff.

Now if you're suggesting that melee damage was previously OP... well, then you play a different game than I do.

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SL4Y3R wrote:

But the issue has nothing to do with damage.

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

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SL4Y3R wrote:

But the issue has nothing to do with damage.

That's strange. Then what do you make of players saying that they need to run Anger and Wrath to keep their DPS up, and that the new hits to their survivability are hard to bear? If what you're saying is true, they simply wouldn't use Anger/Wrath, instead of using them anyway but with reduced survivability...

Those who think melee damage isn't important are lying to themselves. The key to properly surviving severe dangers isn't just tankiness in the conventional sense, but also not having to weather such intense conditions for too long a period of time.

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Achilion wrote:

Aura Exploit Nerf

Bold print by me.

This one is especially cute.

I'm with you on some of the others and an opponent on nerfs in general, but calling fixing an exploit a nerf is, well, funny.

Aura Exploit has become essential part of how ppl create their builds
Items like covenant and malachai's will take a drop in value for sure.
In my opinion this should not be taken as an exploit and should not be fixed it was addin to game depth for ppl to figure that kind of mechanics.

This change imo make the game worse

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Thaelyn wrote:

So this bug fix is a bad thing because the exploit has been around for awhile.

By that logic, I guess they should stop trying to minimize desync as well. Afterall, it's been around a long time too.

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Yes, I know it's a ridiculous post. It's called illustrating absurdity by being absurd.