High Level Map Boss Dmg Is Just Dumb

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RitualMurder wrote:

I get 1 shot by level 72 mine boss while hes got temp chains on him
why the fuck do you temp chain him if you getting instagibbed is the problem? learn to fucking play
im playing anarchy there is no Kaom for me to use and im not that rich anyway

i have 70+ hp on every single item im wearing and ive taken every hp nodes anywhere near my tree i currently have 30 hp nodes taken and my next 2 levels are another 2 6% nodes

its really not possible for me to have much more hp than i do maybe if i can get 80+ hp on everythign i could break 4k by level 85

i didnt use enfeeble cus i didnt expect to get 1 shotted i figured spacing out his attacks by temp chaining him would give my life steal enough to keep me at full hp as it usually does

map mods were
fleet mod ( 20%20%20% mod)
maze
warlords mark curse
inhabited by undead

nothing that would cause my res to be affected

i just think its dumb to get 1 shot like that

/edit i can facetank tank kole smash and brutus smash from dungeon map as long as i have endurance charges and am attacking them i cant die i dont even go below 30% from the hit
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Last edited by RitualMurder#3177 on Aug 7, 2013, 2:03:56 PM
It is dumb to get one-shotted like that.

Unfortunately those bosses are balanced with things like Elemental Adaptation and flasks as a standard for everybody, regardless of how much sense it actually makes for most builds to use such things.

For me for example, as a duelist traveling to ele adapt would be a no go because I have nothing else in that area for my build, this leaves purity and flasks. Cant run purity until I get a soultaker, so that just leaves me with flasks.

Luckily, I just received some upgrades that will allow me to remove my mana pots and add in and instant health pot (even though I dont believe less than 10% healed instantly is that great) and an ele flask depending on the map.

So it would seem they balanced the endgame around over capped resistances.
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thedestroyerofkids wrote:
It is dumb to get one-shotted like that.

Unfortunately those bosses are balanced with things like Elemental Adaptation and flasks as a standard for everybody, regardless of how much sense it actually makes for most builds to use such things.

For me for example, as a duelist traveling to ele adapt would be a no go because I have nothing else in that area for my build, this leaves purity and flasks. Cant run purity until I get a soultaker, so that just leaves me with flasks.

Luckily, I just received some upgrades that will allow me to remove my mana pots and add in and instant health pot (even though I dont believe less than 10% healed instantly is that great) and an ele flask depending on the map.

So it would seem they balanced the endgame around over capped resistances.


they did

and i use 2 seeth and 1 bubbling flask with a 99% granite and a quicksilver

they assume anyone who is at that level of play will have 20-40k armor 5-10k hp/es pool and 80+ overcapped res

which i can understand sorta

but it doesnt make it any less annoying for someone like myself who cant obtain thsoe kind of stats

my char is pretty strong i do 10k aoe dps 30% life steal i can facetank whole rooms of mobs in 6 man map groups and my life barely moves but a boss will 1 shot on some maps
more often than not i can sit tehre and just blast the boss and my life will refill faster than they can do dmg which was my goal in making this char

but when i get 1 shtotted it just feel like i get cheated
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Last edited by RitualMurder#3177 on Aug 7, 2013, 2:11:41 PM
I totally hear you on that.

I play eva/armor hybrid so my defense isnt too strong in either direction.

For spell casters I find enfeeble, end charges, and the appropriate flask to be planty.

But it took me quite some time to get to that point and I even got a few upgrades today from somebody who was very kind.

This will help me tons.

I would say just try to keep moving if you are ranged and if melee, well ^.

I have the opposite problem you do.

I facetank bosses but large groups mess me up big time. My new chest has 3x the armor of the last one so this should be much better now as well.
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RitualMurder wrote:
im playing anarchy there is no Kaom for me to use and im not that rich anyway

i have 70+ hp on every single item im wearing and ive taken every hp nodes anywhere near my tree i currently have 30 hp nodes taken and my next 2 levels are another 2 6% nodes

its really not possible for me to have much more hp than i do maybe if i can get 80+ hp on everythign i could break 4k by level 85

i didnt use enfeeble cus i didnt expect to get 1 shotted i figured spacing out his attacks by temp chaining him would give my life steal enough to keep me at full hp as it usually does

map mods were
fleet mod ( 20%20%20% mod)
maze
warlords mark curse
inhabited by undead

nothing that would cause my res to be affected

i just think its dumb to get 1 shot like that

/edit i can facetank tank kole smash and brutus smash from dungeon map as long as i have endurance charges and am attacking them i cant die i dont even go below 30% from the hit


Some undead necromancers can curse you. Also 75% res is low lol, you should have at least 79%.
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RitualMurder wrote:
im playing anarchy there is no Kaom for me to use and im not that rich anyway

i have 70+ hp on every single item im wearing and ive taken every hp nodes anywhere near my tree i currently have 30 hp nodes taken and my next 2 levels are another 2 6% nodes

its really not possible for me to have much more hp than i do maybe if i can get 80+ hp on everythign i could break 4k by level 85

i didnt use enfeeble cus i didnt expect to get 1 shotted i figured spacing out his attacks by temp chaining him would give my life steal enough to keep me at full hp as it usually does

map mods were
fleet mod ( 20%20%20% mod)
maze
warlords mark curse
inhabited by undead

nothing that would cause my res to be affected

i just think its dumb to get 1 shot like that

/edit i can facetank tank kole smash and brutus smash from dungeon map as long as i have endurance charges and am attacking them i cant die i dont even go below 30% from the hit


Some undead necromancers can curse you. Also 75% res is low lol, you should have at least 79%.


yes i know better than to fight a boss with a curse on me.... lol

and how would you suggest i obtain that resist with ele adapt that about 15 passive nodes of travel away from me? i suppose i could have used a topaz flask but i honestly didnt think id get 1 shotted

this is becoming as issue for this game, 75 res isnt enough somehow? overcapped res should be something that is helpful but not a necessity and its quickly becoming that way

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RitualMurder wrote:
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mazul wrote:
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Some undead necromancers can curse you. Also 75% res is low lol, you should have at least 79%.


yes i know better than to fight a boss with a curse on me.... lol

and how would you suggest i obtain that resist with ele adapt that about 15 passive nodes of travel away from me? i suppose i could have used a topaz flask but i honestly didnt think id get 1 shotted

this is becoming as issue for this game, 75 res isnt enough somehow? overcapped res should be something that is helpful but not a necessity and its quickly becoming that way



Ele adapt is just 2%. Purity gives you 4% extra to at least reach 79%.

Oh and for Fire Fury and Temple Piety map bosses, you need either high ES + Vaal Pact or the max resist shield + resist pot + spell block strategy. (Or you can just kill them by offscreen abuse)
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mazul wrote:
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RitualMurder wrote:
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mazul wrote:
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Some undead necromancers can curse you. Also 75% res is low lol, you should have at least 79%.


yes i know better than to fight a boss with a curse on me.... lol

and how would you suggest i obtain that resist with ele adapt that about 15 passive nodes of travel away from me? i suppose i could have used a topaz flask but i honestly didnt think id get 1 shotted

this is becoming as issue for this game, 75 res isnt enough somehow? overcapped res should be something that is helpful but not a necessity and its quickly becoming that way



Ele adapt is just 2%. Purity gives you 4% extra to at least reach 79%.

Oh and for Fire Fury and Temple Piety map bosses, you need either high ES + Vaal Pact or the max resist shield + resist pot + spell block strategy. (Or you can just kill them by offscreen abuse)


im dual wield i cant use shield
i have bloodseeker as my offhand so i basically have vaal pact
i can facetank piety as long as i whilr blade through her storm and keep avoiding her balls
my life steal keeps me up through a fight with her as long as i hit her with temp chains she cant dish out dmg fast enough to kill me
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