The Holy Grail against Reflect

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tikitaki wrote:

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rhoasjustkilledmybaby wrote:

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tikitaki wrote:

Personally, I prefer to fight against a tough monster than a cardboard cut-out with zero AI and "reflect" attached to it, which basically means I'm fighting against myself.

normal mode ledge farming?

Hey man, you're the one claiming that reflect is some sort of fun, interesting mechanic, not me.

That means you're the one that has to justify the comments, not me.

Hey man, you're the one saying its cheap and that monsters are bad and provide no challenge. I wonder why do you even play the game?

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rhoasjustkilledmybaby wrote:

Hey man, you're the one saying its cheap and that monsters are bad and provide no challenge. I wonder why do you even play the game?

I like ARPG and this one has more potential than D3.

reflect is fun. it offers challenge in theorycrafting and prevent facerolling to some degree.
of course, dying to reflect is not fun at all, but its the game, same as desync.

now I want you to dps very very sloooowyly. moar doats!

burning damage beats reflect also...

it's astounding how few read the OP... anyway, I'd liked to discuss how Vaal Pact can be made available for life or at least giving it a reasonable downside for CI

to balance Life and CI a little...

be realistic... reflect isn't going anywhere

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Buchsbaum wrote:

it's astounding how few read the OP... anyway, I'd liked to discuss how Vaal Pact can be made available for life or at least giving it a reasonable downside for CI

this ^

the OP made very good suggestions to make vaal pact viable for life builds

if someone claim that reflect should not be countered by a key note well than vaal pact have to be removed since it counters reflect for es builds with ghostreaver

i support the OP's opinion that he want to allow life builds to regen or to use life flasks would be a good change to the skill. because life for the most part sucks and i hate this ES agenda people who try to keep life builds down.

PS. im for removing shavrones chest from the game atleast removing it from the next ladder reset.
Plus giving righteousfire the same bonus to physical damage and/or elemental damage instead of only spell dmg.

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rhoasjustkilledmybaby wrote:

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Necropotence wrote:

evasion + block = lol reflect

evasion with high accuracy / RT / lioneyes = reflect still hits you most/ all the time

another reason why block is the superior avoidance technique out of the 2

dont use lioneyes or rt, go high evasion and use ondars guile

reflect can suck it

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fsg wrote:

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rhoasjustkilledmybaby wrote:

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Necropotence wrote:

evasion + block = lol reflect

evasion with high accuracy / RT / lioneyes = reflect still hits you most/ all the time

another reason why block is the superior avoidance technique out of the 2

dont use lioneyes or rt, go high evasion and use ondars guile

reflect can suck it

that doesn't work as well as you think it does. try running the numbers on it. you need both crazy high evasion and crazy LOW accuracy even with ondar's guile.

and then your DPS suffers because your accuracy sucks.

Vaal Pact
Life leech applies instantly.
Cannot regenerate life.
Energy shield recovery delay is tripled.

u dont have to worry about reflect if u blind enemies. add 30-50% chance for evade, ondar's guile, over 40% block, enfeble and u will survive any reflect. ofc thats if u are not a mara or templar which are obsolete now.

thats the holy grail... adding too many dice into a crap shoot. if u have too few u wont win.