Claw Bloodseeker Build Brainstorming

Regarding Crits and bosses - With static blows it would really only depend on the life of the mobs (to reach the min duration of 300ms). I'll try and find out if there's a list somwhere...

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baoxxx wrote:

My IGN is Duel_ist, a lightning striker. I'm pretty sure I've seen that name before.

Yes I do remember you - small world, shoot me a msg I'm doing maps again today :)

I just switched my Bloodseeker in. Groups of a size/damage output that used to have me bouncing around between about 50-70% HP, now I barely even notice my HP dropping at all. Yeah, way overcapped. Between the 20% HP per second from the off-claw and the direct leeching from the Bloodseeker, I've got so much regen that I'm wiping out act 3 merciless with 1.5k HP, no deaths except desync. I love that cyclone hits use alternate weapons.

One thing to note: dual strike has a very strange interaction with Bloodseeker's VP effect. When I have it on mainhand and the normal claw on offhand, my leech is instant, as expected. When I switch the weapons around, my leech is 20% per second.

is this true w/ cyclone only or other alternating weapon effects as well?

I think you have a bug to report and to some extent exploit for some time, not GG game breaking but do some testing and find out whats up, both to help improve the game and have fun. Let us know how it goes, gl.

Cyclone is working entirely as intended. The trick is that leech applies instantly only on hits with the Bloodseeker, so when it's the other claw's turn to hit, it'll leech as normal (20% per second). Therefore, this should work with anything else that alternates hands, such as flicker strike.

Which, by the way, I am also using. Have you ever seen a flicker multi build with 4 displayed APS on auto attack?

The dual strike thing, that may be a bug.

Kirielis got interested in your build because I've planned to do dual claw cyclonist. I'm quite new to the game so do you think it's viable without extreme gear (if I understood right you are not CI and that would probably help with not so good gear)? Could you please tell me how does your build look like (passives, gems etc)? Either here or in private message. Thanks already!

And interesting discussion here everyone, keep going! :)

Thought id post my Life based double bloodseeker melee splash Shadow build. I have played around this build since start of Anarchy.

Basically I run a Aura build rather than blood magic build.

Gear (this is my Lunaris farm gear):


I farm Lunaris with around 200 iir and 60 iiq. It wouldnt be too hard to get more, but im too lazy to spend time in Poexplorer^_^

Important thing about gear is that you really want to have around 7% total mana leech (I have 2% from passive, 3% from ammy (ilvl74+ ammy's can have 3-4%) and ring with 2%.

Skill/'s:
I mainly spam Double strike melee splash. Other main gems are:
-Multistrike
-Faster attacks
-IIQ (swap with Melee physical damage for Mapping)
-IIR (If I can deal with mana cost ill put Increased Critical damage. (would love to put
-Added fire damage but its very very hard to make Carcass Jack to 4 offcolors).

Its worth mentioning that its very nice to have a q20 melee splash since it gives Increased area for splash. Other quality gems I have for that I can drop offensive passives and rely on damage from gear - and not lose that 15%.

Build:


Key passives worth mentioning:
-Eldritch Battery to turn that Carcass Jack 300es into additional aura. I have 6 auras at the moment of which I run Wrath and Grace with Blood magic.
-Dervish: 10%! block when dual wielding and 16% physical damage. (theres tons of very good additional defensive nodes around that in Duelist start area).
-Iron Reflexes: Evasion sucks for as long as Acrobatics takes your ES and Armor to 50%.
-Spirit raker: get that fat life leech.
-Mind Drinker: 2% mana leech is essential.


Build works well. No need for insane gear since I can run 70+ maps with IIQ and IIR gems (thus basically running with 4l chest). The Bloodseeker claws cost around 5-8gcp each in Anarchy and you dont basically need new weapons after that.

Hope these tips help,
Sslice


Edit ps: I have around 5k melee splash aoe damage and somewhere around 2.6k life after I have buffed some auras from hp. When I pop my armor granite I have 30k armor. Basically I have full up-time on granites so when I hit a pack I always have that 30k.

Edit ps2: As curses I use Enfeeble mostly. Sometimes if I get bored of killing the mob I throw Vulnerability in.

Edit ps3: I use Skeleton totem with bliding skeletons for Map bosses.

Edit ps4: I have 4 endurance charges (1 from Helping merciless Oak.) However, im not using Endurance charges too often.

Very nice melee splash build there!

To the guy above that: let's see.


Some of those gems are only there because I'm leveling them. Whatever.

I need to do a major rework of gems and links, which I figure will tie into the overall item rework when I pull items off my other character to gear him. Meanwhile, I suppose I'm proof that "not so good gear" is viable. Though there's no way I'm taking that into maps!

The final plan for this shadow is actually Bringer of Rain. Blind with Cyclone is incredibly strong. For all that it hasn't got much chance to proc, in actual terms you're likely to blind most of the mob at any given time simply due to how quickly you're hitting them. Yeah, and the first thing I thought after that was, let's grab us a shield, use enfeeble and go Acrobatics.

Current build, one potential build (damage), another potential build (HP). I build around having 100 points at level 80, give or take a couple.

Suggestions welcome, of course. I hope this answers your question.

Very nice builds guys and thanks a lot for help! Can't wait leveling one of those - now I only have difficulty of choosing ;)

Btw what are your bandit choices? (Other than what Cudez said for his build at merc)

Edit: One more question popped into my mind. Does Double Strike behave same way as Cyclone with Bloodseeker and another claw (leech-wise)?

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Jarush wrote:

Very nice builds guys and thanks a lot for help! Can't wait leveling one of those - now I only have difficulty of choosing ;)

Btw what are your bandit choices? (Other than what Cudez said for his build at merc)

Edit: One more question popped into my mind. Does Double Strike behave same way as Cyclone with Bloodseeker and another claw (leech-wise)?

If what you mean is that whether:

a) You have 1 bloodseeker and 1 normal claw. Answer: You will leech instantly from the bloodseeker weapon damage and in addition you have the life leech from second weapon that builds up slow but steady.
b) You have 2 bloodseekers. Answer: All your life leech is applied instantly. How can I say? I have tested this by hitting a mob few times and watched how my hp doesnt do any "leeching" after the initial hit.

Hope this helps,
Sslice

Thanks for all the input, esp. cudez for the long post :) Amazing gear btw!
Good to have some numbers regarding %leech for mana.