Claw Bloodseeker Build Brainstorming

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Autocthon wrote:

Don't forget Life Leech is global, if you don't believe me its easily testable.

That's the reason current high end "leech" claws aren't 6% intrinsic leech.

That's why I like it :)

Just imagine just 3k physical damage with 8% leech from the bloodseekers + let's say 20% from gear & passives = 240 instant life leech + 600 (or 20% of max health) per second extra.

Edit: Edited the first post, hope Autocthon doesn't mind that I mentioned him :)

yeah claws can get like 80% life leech LEL

passive, claw passives, claw with 12%, warlords mark, life leech gem, blood rage, gloves rings amu (carnage heart) belt

Haha 80% leech - maybe there's a hidden easter egg: At 100% leech your character explodes from all the blood he's drinking? ;)

Anyhow, I put another tree draft into the first post @ 97 points (should be around lvl 80ish) with the potential for 30% extra ES with the next 5 points. Still unsure about all those str points (I'd probably have some gear with str on it so woudn't need to waste all those points) and accuracy and if it's worth to spec into RT.

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Pes_Planus wrote:

2nd try...

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Autocthon wrote:

This could be considered a good thing. If your DPS is high enough you'll be gaining 12% DPS as health +20% Health per second.

Exactly :)

I've wanted that claw for a while, though my main shadow is a low ES multiplier high block build on standard, so the other unique claw is better.

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Using Dual Strike or Cyclone with a Life Leech gem you'll be gaining massive amounts of health, especially with hatred factored in.

Why would you use a life leech gem? With 2 claws and some passives I sould be at around 30% leech - shouldn't that be enough?

To be honest? Another ~9% leech is just awesome. Plus quality adds leech rate, which is pretty useful.

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I recommend going CI if you have the gear, if only because it makes reflect mobs easier to handle. Concentrate on getting the massive dual wield block passives by the duelist (you'll be in the area to get IR), then wear ES/EV gear (base ES loss is about 22% with good gear, not a big deal).

I thought about that, but wouldn't that be pretty out of the way for a CI build?

You can get ~+150%-200% ES and still get IR. It's the big thing currently. Since the new leagues get US for CI users anyway.

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However you can use Blind to get a 75% Evasion rate, which basically makes you "block capped" effectively. I'd rather have the evasion than Unwavering Stance personally.

This is a pretty good idea actually (Bringer of Rain / Bloodseeker Build haha).

In a bringer of rain HP build you'll have a 7L Dual Strike with 30% base block (44% after passive). Pretty crazy. Bringer of rain can get you pretty much block capped when duel wielding. Admittedly you have to focus on capping, though you'll still get pretty crazy +HP

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I quite like the infernal blow idea (50% of physical damage converted to fire) - it would mean less leech (but with 30% that shouldn't be too bad), but would be alot safer against reflect mobs. No?

Not really, you'll be instant leeching a lot more health per hit than the enemy is reflecting. I mean a LOT.

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Not really, you'll be instant leeching a lot more health per hit than the enemy is reflecting. I mean a LOT.

Well, depending on the size of your reflect, this won't matter, as the game tests your HP and whether you die prior to applying the regen from leech.

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Courageous wrote:

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Not really, you'll be instant leeching a lot more health per hit than the enemy is reflecting. I mean a LOT.

Well, depending on the size of your reflect, this won't matter, as the game tests your HP and whether you die prior to applying the regen from leech.

You'd have to be doing pretty crazy damage to one shot yourself though, especially with multistrike damage effectiveness.

Specifically: You should be doing at least ~3times your HP in DPS (from one claw) to maintain constant 20% regeneration, and you'll be regenerating some value of your HP per hit with the hellion paw.

For you to one shot yourself with physical damage (assuming no armor) you'd be needing to do an excess of total damage in one strike of 5x your current health.

Double-Post to note: If you use hybrid EV/AR armor and go for a life build don't bother with IR, EV/AR defensive stacking has massive returns and synergy with enfeeble. Plus reaching 90+% evasion with blind is awesome.

Going CI let you use blood rage, which adds additional leech and free frenzy charge as attack speed. You don't need extra leech gem, and the mana cost it adds.

Just beware going CI is far more gear dependent than life. Not only do you need a good Ev/Es linked hybrid armor, which is costly, you will also need very high es gear on all other slots since you lack a shield, which counts for 30% of a ES setup.

You will also need additional uniques that aren't cheap, aka dream fragment and chaylua.

With a claw build you can run Blood Rage on HP and have it barely noticeable.

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thinkingofaname wrote:

Going CI let you use blood rage, which adds additional leech and free frenzy charge as attack speed. You don't need extra leech gem, and the mana cost it adds.

CI is like 8% degen after chaos resistance, max. You can regenerate like 24% life per second form leech. CI is hardly required to use blood rage well.

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Just beware going CI is far more gear dependent than life. Not only do you need a good Ev/Es linked hybrid armor, which is costly, you will also need very high es gear on all other slots since you lack a shield, which counts for 30% of a ES setup.

LAWL

Shields are nowhere near 30% of total ES. At best they're 20% after you account for actually gearing.

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You will also need additional uniques that aren't cheap, aka dream fragment and chaylua.

Unwavering Stance can replace Chayula. Or just a ton of evasion preventing chain stuns. Both work. Dream Fragments is situational based on enemy cold damage.