Do minions benefit from charges, auras and equipment?

Yes, auras work well with minions. Covert had a pretty nice witch support build that relied entirely on this.
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Charges work on Minions, particularly with Warlord's Mark, but Conduit does not. Auras and Totems also work with Minions.

To add on to this question, however, I'd like to ask whether Minions benefit from the Passive Skill Tree or not. Ie, if I take Arcing Blows and my Minions have the Wrath Aura up, will they take Arcing Blows into account, or will I be the only one to benefit from that?

The same goes for any of the Elemental damage, or stats in general; If my Minions have any form of damage Aura, or other Aura up, will they gain benefit from things effecting these from the Passive Skill Tree (Particularly Elemental Equilibrium with two or more different Elemental damage Auras up)?

Is there any way GGG could give us a bit more information on the inner workings of Minions and what, exactly, they benefit from?
Last edited by Ariana#5185 on Jul 24, 2012, 11:18:30 PM
i was told that totems share a soul link w/o you... therefore your attk and passives etc so i would think the same applies to minions i have indeed placed charges on a minion. I also linked various support gems to them such as faster attacks etc...... u can even link support gems to dominating blow and revive a minion w/ whatever support gem affects are linked to infernal blow such as

Increased elemental dmg,faster attk, culling strike, cold to fire. I tested all of these; even raised a mage minion w/ infernal blow w/ lesser pojectile linked and it fired more projectiles.

The customization in this game is freaking awesome (.)

faster attking lifeleech zombies are awesome btw
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Ariana wrote:
Charges work on Minions, particularly with Warlord's Mark, but Conduit does not. Auras and Totems also work with Minions.

To add on to this question, however, I'd like to ask whether Minions benefit from the Passive Skill Tree or not. Ie, if I take Arcing Blows and my Minions have the Wrath Aura up, will they take Arcing Blows into account, or will I be the only one to benefit from that?
No. Your minions don't have your passive skills, you do. If you have a passive increasing your fire damage, then your fire damage is increased. Your minions do not have that passive (or any passives), and thus their fire damage is not increased.

The only passives that can affect minions are the ones which give you a bonus that explicitly modifies your minions.


Totems are not minions, and work completely differently. A totem does not have skills of it's own, but uses your skills. Since your skills are affected by your passives, they still are when they are cast by your totems. However, the totem does not itself have your stats, so does not benefit from your defensive passives - only the spells cast by the totem get your stats, because they're your spells, just cast via the totem. The totem itself uses it's own stats to defend with.
Last edited by Mark_GGG#0000 on Jul 25, 2012, 1:48:53 AM
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Mark_GGG wrote:
No. Your minions don't have your passive skills, you do. If you have a passive increasing your fire damage, then your fire damage is increased. Your minions do not have that passive (or any passives), and thus their fire damage is not increased.

The only passives that can affect minions are the ones which give you a bonus that explicitly modifies your minions.


Totems are not minions, and work completely differently. A totem does not have skills of it's own, but uses your skills. Since your skills are affected by your passives, they still are when they are cast by your totems. However, the totem does not itself have your stats, so does not benefit from your defensive passives - only the spells cast by the totem get your stats, because they're your spells, just cast via the totem. The totem itself uses it's own stats to defend with.


Exactly what I was looking for, perfect. Much thanks for the response.

Very interesting; So Minions are not an extension of you, but a different entity entirely.

What about in terms of Necromantic Aegis? If I were to take that, as well as take passives such as Shield Defences, would -those- passives go to my Minions, who are now essentially wearing my Shield? Do the Passive benefits translate into my Shield's stats, and then get dumped into Necromantic Aegis? Or would that merely be poor optimization and a waste of a passive skill point since I am not getting any benefit from it?

Also, does this mean that Minion Instability does not/is not supposed to increase in damage based off of your fire damage modifiers, but is reliant solely on Minion Health (I know it's bugged right now, but will that remain the case)? Or is it actually considered a skill that -you- cast (Or the same attributes as a Totem) when a Minion dies, and not something the Minion casts?

Edited in: And if Minion Instability -does- increase via your Fire damage modifiers and is a spell you cast, is it also safe to assume that it benefits from things like Blaze and Pyromaniac? Or how exactly does that work?

Sorry for the questions, I'm legitimately curious and attempting to optimize my build to the best of my knowledge, particularly before release.
Last edited by Ariana#5185 on Jul 25, 2012, 2:29:09 AM
Thanks to everyone!
So to sum up:
-Minions get your auras and can get charges via conduit or warlord's mark
-Minions do not benefit from any passive skill, besides the necro aegis

Open questions:

-Do passives apply on shiled before Necro aegis effect, e.g. do minons gets your boosted shield stats?
-"Also, does this mean that Minion Instability does not/is not supposed to increase in damage based off of your fire damage modifiers, but is reliant solely on Minion Health (I know it's bugged right now, but will that remain the case)? Or is it actually considered a skill that -you- cast (Or the same attributes as a Totem) when a Minion dies, and not something the Minion casts?

Edited in: And if Minion Instability -does- increase via your Fire damage modifiers and is a spell you cast, is it also safe to assume that it benefits from things like Blaze and Pyromaniac? Or how exactly does that work?"


GG
What are the stats on charges for minions?
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Thanks to everyone!
So to sum up:
-Minions get your auras and can get charges via conduit or warlord's mark


I think it was stated that conduit does NOT give your charges to your minions. Check back in the tread.
Yeah I run an aura necro. Summons definitely do not get charges I get, (using the unique armour that gives endurance charges + makes those affect party members).

They do get benefit from auras. I use wrath and anger (the fire and lightning damage ones). Hope to put burning and elemental proliferation passives onto them as well, just need good socketed gear.

My zombies are mean, with auras up they hit quite hard. With rejuv totem they almost never die, especially since the last patch.

You can put added fire/lightning/cold damage, elemental proliferation, burning and all kinds of other nice passives onto summons too.
Another question for the experts:

If you're using an aura that adds 50 lightning damage, and you have minion passives that give the minion +100% damage, does the minion deal 100 lightning damage or just the base 50?

I've tried to think of a way to test this but without monster health display numbers, in game testing results would be too inaccurate.

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