If you use a pure physical bow like lions, lets say 343 dps with LA AND blackgleam and running hatred its effectively doing: (can someone confirm this is how physical conversion works)
or essentially 428.75 elemental dmg which is amplified initially by iron grip
* can crit (burn shock chill from crit)
* iron grip increases initial physical damage by a certain % based on STR
* some dps is gained from being able to crit
* one passive is saved from RT
* MUST use blackgleams in order to achieve high dps
* benefits greatly from lavalash
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/344077
Compared to this tri ele bow with 78.75 physical dps 281.75 elemental dps
which will do
39.375 physical damage
321.125 mixed elemental
Aproximately 321 Edps + some physical
at 1.75 APS
* Can not crit (no elemental crit procs)
* does not benefit from iron grip
* saves approximately 6 passive points by not having to spec to iron grip
* benefits somewhat from lavalash
* benefits from a quiver which can potentially have 2-28 light, 36 wed, 10 ias , 99 life, 30 chaos, 45 resist
While lionseye (blood magic gem variant) will soundly beat the tri ele in terms of dps, it is giving up about 5 or 6 passive points in order to reach iron grip and 5 affixes from a rare quiver.
To over simply things:
127.75 more ELEMENTAL dps
VS
6 passive points + 36WED , 2-28 light dmg + 99 life + 30 chaos resist + 45 ele resist
The question then becomes if you are creative enough to turn 6 passives as those additional stats into a mix of dps/health that can overcome a 128 dps deficit.
To reaffirm a point, lionseye is a grossly overpowered item considering its rarity and destroys item and build diversity.
but like we all know tri ele bows are shit.....
we are talking about good rare bows ( 468 dps )
it consists off mostly physical damage (169% phys + 25-45 flat phys + 41-71 fire damage and 1.75 aps)
So it does benefit from iron grip. And you can use Hatred the same way you would use with lions eye.
I'm terribly sorry but I'm kind of assuming a /real/ quiver is being used, not blackgleam
I realize blackgleam is a nice glass cannon quiver but I'm a hardcore player and even a 50% blackgleam is worth like...2 chaos there. nobody wants it, nobody uses it.
It's the godly WED/life/chaos/atck speed quivers that people want....not blackgleam.....
even so, i think the spirit of nephs math is mostly on par
a real quiver? And by real quiver you mean something with alot lower dps compared to blackgleam?
i dont understand your logic. Quiver is supposed to be a DPS slot hence why everyone wants % ele dmg + attack speed + flat ele dmg..... your argument is completely moronic.
Mybe the accuracy is calculated differently for it, or it gives some kind of hidden accuracy bonus, but they have said that it indeed can miss.
Like always though, they didn't give any hard maths on the subject.
Since when are developers always right? If you had done some testing yourself you'd find that rain of arrows does indeed never miss. Even the green skeleton boss in rocky climb normal always hits a character with high evasion.
Pretty sure thats a lot better than my Lioneyes. Id take that bow with 90% acc over lioneyes.
Edit: Eh, linking aside I guess its between physical vs ele dmg. Higher min dmg and spd, so the rare is better phys dps anyway, then you add the lightning...
Omg, just looked at the gems, Insane build XD
ZiggyD is the Labyrinth of streamers, some like it, some dont, but GGG will make sure to push it down ur throat to make you like it
I agree. After all the highest hit rate you can have is 95% regardless of how much evasion you have. Lion Eye is 100% and allows you to focus on other stats.
