Looting -- The official thread for discussing the loot system. Updated 18th March, 2013.

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oranged wrote:

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thepmrc wrote:

NOBODY did public farm games.

You are wrong about that, everyone did public farm games. Mainly Baal runs. The loot was FFA. And the weird thing was, there was no 900 page post on bnet forum about the FFA loot. But it's now a different generation of gamers I guess.

Actually I am right. Following a bot to on a baal run is not farming. It is following a fucking bot. People did this to power level to the point they could solo farm, unless they were just looking for XP then they would continue holding their ondal's and riding the coattails of said bot. If you had quoted my whole post that I specifically mentioned this fact. All public games were either content rush at the beginning of a ladder or BOT GAMES (or trades/duels but those are irrelevant to the discussion).

If you think people did public MF games in D2 then you are the one here who is delusional. I played D2 for the better part of 10 years, I ran armies of bots even... FFA ensured that all true MF runs were done solo (often in public games for the increased drop rates)

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Ten_of_Swords wrote:

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thepmrc wrote:

Yeah, because boss farming was done in solo games, or hugging the coattails of a bot, and the you can't really get upset with a bot whose pickit took everything of value.

Using D2 as a way to glorify a FFA loot system doesn't work too well considering that the ONLY public grouping done was content rushing at the start of a ladder and bot baal/chaos games. That was it. NOBODY did public farm games. NOBODY did public mephy runs. This stuff did not exist. If that is the design goal for PoE, I get it, I just don't think its ideal.

In the big picture I would somewhat agree. and maybe moreso in softcore or non-ladder.

However, when I played d2 HC ladders we would wait for the resets - and for the first three - four weeks it did work well, there were competitive full public games everywhere and no bots until the first HR's got duped and enigma/hammer pally bots would start doing pub games. (we did figure out ways to kill some of the bots too) Blizzard often did code changes so a new maphack/picket would need to be published buying some time... the real d2 ladder races were over after a month.

It did exist for sure, but it was fleeting.

You did see where i mentioned content rush at the beginning of a ladder? This was not item farming. Personally, my experience with public HC games in D2 was TPPK, TPPK, TPPK. So yeah, never did public games in HC outside of enchant games....

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thepmrc wrote:

If you think people did public MF games in D2 then you are the one here who is delusional. I played D2 for the better part of 10 years, I ran armies of bots even... FFA ensured that all true MF runs were done solo (often in public games for the increased drop rates)

No I agree that people didn't do public MF runs in D2. I was just referring to exp farm.

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oranged wrote:

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thepmrc wrote:

If you think people did public MF games in D2 then you are the one here who is delusional. I played D2 for the better part of 10 years, I ran armies of bots even... FFA ensured that all true MF runs were done solo (often in public games for the increased drop rates)

No I agree that people didn't do public MF runs in D2. I was just referring to exp farm.

which is what everyone in poe does
what kind of retard would try and farm items in a public game?

either get some friends or stack quality/quantity and solo like every other game before this that no one complained about.

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oranged wrote:

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thepmrc wrote:

If you think people did public MF games in D2 then you are the one here who is delusional. I played D2 for the better part of 10 years, I ran armies of bots even... FFA ensured that all true MF runs were done solo (often in public games for the increased drop rates)

No I agree that people didn't do public MF runs in D2. I was just referring to exp farm.

thank you, on that we can definitely agree.

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nil4t wrote:

which is what everyone in poe does
what kind of retard would try and farm items in a public game?

either get some friends or stack quality/quantity and solo like every other game before this that no one complained about.

WHY should the game be designed so that if you try to farm items in a public game you are branded a retard?

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Sickness wrote:

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nil4t wrote:

which is what everyone in poe does
what kind of retard would try and farm items in a public game?

either get some friends or stack quality/quantity and solo like every other game before this that no one complained about.

WHY should the game be designed so that if you try to farm items in a public game you are branded a retard?

why should we even have to pick up items? i think they should all go straight into my stash and they could make it so we could filter what gets picked up that way i would never have to go back to town to sell anything.
while we are at it why should it be designed so i have to endlessly grind for levels? I should be able to pay for experince because i don't have as much time as other people to grind.
its just not fair wah wah wah.

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nil4t wrote:

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Sickness wrote:

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nil4t wrote:

which is what everyone in poe does
what kind of retard would try and farm items in a public game?

either get some friends or stack quality/quantity and solo like every other game before this that no one complained about.

WHY should the game be designed so that if you try to farm items in a public game you are branded a retard?

why should we even have to pick up items? i think they should all go straight into my stash and they could make it so we could filter what gets picked up that way i would never have to go back to town to sell anything.
while we are at it why should it be designed so i have to endlessly grind for levels? I should be able to pay for experince because i don't have as much time as other people to grind.
its just not fair wah wah wah.

So you can't answer the question? Big surprise there...

Anyone with more than 2 braincells wanna give it a try?

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Sickness wrote:

So you can't answer the question? Big surprise there...

Anyone with more than 2 braincells wanna give it a try?

I believe that by answering mine you will have the answer to yours
give it a shot.